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Dark matter detected?

Third Eye Open

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What do you guys think? How likely is it that this is really happening?
I'm getting really excited but am trying to hold it back, I don't want to be disappointed!

In a series of coordinated announcements at several US laboratories, researchers said they believed they had captured dark matter in a defunct iron ore mine half a mile underground. The claim, if confirmed next year, will rank as one the most spectacular discoveries in physics in the past century.
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I keep thinking about dark matter suns and planets moving through us at all times. Maybe even dark matter life forms trying to detect us in a similar way, wondering what this stuff is that makes up the unaccounted for 4% of their universe.
 
How much more likely was the announcement 'leaked' in order to finagle more funding for further research?
 
Fnord said:
How much more likely was the announcement 'leaked' in order to finagle more funding for further research?
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I agree. ****ing Einstein and his ****ing theory of relativity, dumb kike thinks we'll just give him cash if he makes up some crap about time slowing down and stuff, then have some of his colleges make up some babble about Mercury's orbit. Cash hungry nitwits.
 
Holy crap, if this stands up to scrutiny, it's frakkin' HUGE :eye-poppi

ETA: I'm excited, but I shall await final judgment until after there is verification & repeatability in the measurements of these supposed dark matter particles. Thanks for the link.
 
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Fnord said:
How much more likely was the announcement 'leaked' in order to finagle more funding for further research?
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GreyICE said:
I agree. ****ing Einstein and his ****ing theory of relativity, dumb kike thinks we'll just give him cash if he makes up some crap about time slowing down and stuff, then have some of his colleges make up some babble about Mercury's orbit. Cash hungry nitwits.
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I can't believe you even took the time to respond to such an idiotic statement.
 
In a series of coordinated announcements at several US laboratories, researchers said they believed they had captured dark matter in a defunct iron ore mine half a mile underground. The claim, if confirmed next year, will rank as one the most spectacular discoveries in physics in the past century ... Detectors in the mine will be upgraded in the new year before the search for more dark matter continues...
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Someone has to pay for those Spirit Cameras Hubbard Electropsychometers detector upgrades, and what better way to attract donations than with a tantalizing "we're within a year of confirmation" tidbit?

Idiotic? No ... just being skeptical of claims, that's all. They could be right, but there is yet no confirmation, so let's all wait for some real results before we celebrate the Second Coming Bigfoot's capture the discovery of Dark Matter, and go about beheading infidels burning heretics insulting us doubters, okay?
 
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Someone has to pay for those Spirit Cameras Hubbard Electropsychometers detector upgrades, and what better way to attract donations than with a tantalizing "we're within a year of confirmation" tidbit?
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:rolleyes: The CT subforum is thataway --->

Idiotic? No ... just being skeptical of claims, that's all. They could be right, but there is yet no confirmation, so let's all wait for some real results before we celebrate the Second Coming Bigfoot's capture the discovery of Dark Matter, and go about beheading infidels burning heretics insulting us doubters, okay?
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What part of my statement "... if this stands up to scrutiny..." did you NOT understand?
 
Fnord said:
IF
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Yes, and I was the first one to use it, when I stated the following:

MattusMaximus said:
Holy crap, if this stands up to scrutiny, it's frakkin' HUGE :eye-poppi
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I further expressed my skepticism by making the following statement:

ETA: I'm excited, but I shall await final judgment until after there is verification & repeatability in the measurements of these supposed dark matter particles. Thanks for the link.
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So quit acting like I didn't express any skepticism. Just because I don't buy into your hare-brained conspiracy mongering about science funding doesn't mean I'm not thinking critically about this news.

Bye now. You're not worth wasting any more electrons on...
 
Fnord said:
IF
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Not to mention an incredibly useful one. Imagine a world where 'if' didn't exist - science would evaporate in a flash. Imagine a world where every postulation, every hint of success, was followed by accusations of trying to secure more funding. We'd cripple ourselves with our cynicism.

This team could indeed be trying to milk a few extra bucks from the teat of funding. All scientists are desperate for more funding, and many will sell what they've found. It's up to those who hold the purse strings to determine what is legitimate from that which isn't based on their perception of the research.

As MM said, I'm excited by the possibilities. I have no reason to resort to cynicism and immediately suspect that everybody in the world other than me is an idiot, so give the said holders of the purse strings the benefit of the doubt and think they might know more than a random poster on some forum about the research and be making the right decision. If nothing comes of it, then it's their money wasted. No big deal. If something does...it will be an exciting time in history.

Athon
 
Third Eye Open said:
What do you guys think? How likely is it that this is really happening?
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The chances are about 3 in four thta this is happening since the article states:
Dan Bauer, head of the Cryogenic Dark Matter Search (CDMS), said the group had spotted two particles with all the expected characteristics of dark matter. There is a one in four chance that the result is due to some other effect in the underground detectors, Bauer told a seminar at the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, near Chicago.
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Fnord said:
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Someone has to pay for those Spirit Cameras Hubbard Electropsychometers detector upgrades, and what better way to attract donations than with a tantalizing "we're within a year of confirmation" tidbit?

Idiotic? No ... just being skeptical of claims, that's all. They could be right, but there is yet no confirmation, so let's all wait for some real results before we celebrate the Second Coming Bigfoot's capture the discovery of Dark Matter, and go about beheading infidels burning heretics insulting us doubters, okay?
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I LOL'd :D

Hard.
 
Bill Thompson said:
Dude, did you mean anti-matter?
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No. The OP is not confusing dark matter with anti-matter. The reality of anti-matter in the laboratory has been established for many, many years. In fact, anti-matter is regularly manufactured in particle accelerators.
 
Zeuzzz said:
Science by press release. :rolleyes:
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In actual fact it was reporting of experimental results by press release, conferences and a pre-print (real soon now!).

The results were pretty much what people were expecting from the previous reports, i.e. a hint that the apparatus could detect dark matter in the future. The results are not up to the 3 sigma significance that is usually treated as an observation in experimental physics. But they are just above the 1.5 sigma that is treated as noise.
 
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