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Overman

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Adult swim accidently shuts down Boston with marketing play. Mayor an idiot. People way too uptight. Overman thinks funny.



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Freak out! They are probing our defenses. We new all along they were targeting major bridges. I am smarter than the DOD. They just said this is a fake to trick us again, but actually nothing happened. Overman thinks funny.
 
Boston has got to be the dumbest city on the planet. No offense to any JREFers who live in Boston. I can not fathom how a lighted up sign displaying an outline of a cartoon character can be misconstrued as a bomb threat. Seriously, what is wrong with these people?
 
Boston Police Commissioner Edward Davis called it "unconscionable" that the marketing campaign was executed in a post 9/11 era. "It's a foolish prank on the part of Turner Broadcasting," he said. "In the environment nowadays ... we really have to look at the motivation of the company here and why this happened."

*SSCLOWN.
 
Yeah, it's tough to keep a sense of humor...

I work in Emergency Operations and Homeland Security here in Newark, so I know folks like these...the nature of their job makes them a little more paranoid and nervous about the comic than other folks. It's not easy. Too many times we've had to deal in Newark with people who smelled gas fumes in a building, which forced us to evacuate the place, and bring in the guys with the fancy meters. Result, no gas.

Other times we have had packages pop open in post offices and mail rooms and spew white powder all over the place, and in go the guys in moon suits to find that some prankster has mailed sugar to scare the bejabbers out of his enemies or just the postal guys.

And, of course, we have to shut down buildings and subway lines when someone leaves their purse or their groceries or their handbag in a corner or on a subway seat. My wife got stuck in a subway train under the Hudson River for two hours by a canteloupe.

These are the times we live in. I am reminded of the panic and rumors that afflicted the American defenders of Hawaii after Pearl Harbor. There was no panic or hysteria during the attack or the immediate aftermath, but that night and for the next few days, a lot of people went to pieces. "Enemy planes" were reported everywhere. A sampan off Oahu became the Japanese invasion fleet. A kite in a tree was a Japanese paratrooper. American planes from the carrier Enterprise landing at Ford Island were shot down by "friendly fire." A barking dog on the shore was supposedly sending a coded message to the Japanese. A blue light blinking behind Pearl Harbor was thought to be a spy's lantern. A dozen GIs moved in to find a farmer using a regulation blue light while he milked his cows, and the "coded message" was caused by swaying palm fronds.

Other defenders, after repelling the attack, ran out of emotional gas. A major burst into tears and said the islands were doomed, and had to be sent stateside for recovery. A Congressman called up the White House in hysteria, saying the West Coast was indefensible, and demanded battle lines be established in the Rocky Mountains. There are aspects of Stephen Spielberg's movie 1941 that are accurate in their depiction of the panic at the time.

Consequently, it's tough for guys whose jobs are to be suspicious and alert to terrorist threats and other calamities (don't forget that we have our own supply of domestic bomb-makers and nutters bent on destruction) to maintain a sense of humor about these stunts.

70 years ago, the New York Police Academy test had a question on what an officer was supposed to do if he saw a woman in a Roman toga leading a horse down Fifth Avenue. The answers varied: arrest her, ticket her, cover her up, but the right answer was: "Ignore it. It is probably a publicity stunt." That test measured officer applicant's common sense.

Sometimes, in the face of the unbelievably horrific news and events we have witnessed since 1939, it is hard to remember that.
 
Thanks...

Nice post Kiwi. Thanks for putting it all into perspective.


It was a lot easier to be in this game before the 1960s. Remember George Metesky? The "Mad Bomber?" He was placing bombs all over New York and sending taunting messages, back in the 1950s. He turned out to be a guy who got fired from Consolidated Edison, and they ignored his complaints and lawsuits. That was considered a massive issue back then. He was the start of criminal profiling, too.

Today, he's an amateur, compared to the SDS of the 1960s, FALN in the 1970s, the Unabomber after that, and Tim McVeigh. That's the real cause of the problem...our nation's sense of humor has really been worn down by all the strife of the past 30 years.
 
IMy wife got stuck in a subway train under the Hudson River for two hours by a canteloupe.
My philosophy in dealing with the melon threat has always been "prosciutto first, ask questions later."
 
Boston has got to be the dumbest city on the planet. No offense to any JREFers who live in Boston. I can not fathom how a lighted up sign displaying an outline of a cartoon character can be misconstrued as a bomb threat. Seriously, what is wrong with these people?

Coming from a nation which has faced credible bomb threats for the past 40 years or so, what surprises me is not that these suspect electronic devices where removed/ destroyed, but that it took them so bloody long to do it. The willingness of various terrorist groups to disguise their bombs as innocent looking things is well known.
It's not beyond the realms of possibility that a terrorist group would disguise bombs as electronic signs.
 
*SSCLOWN.


I like jokes, I loved Terry Southern' Magic Christian. The publicity stunt was abject stupidity. Why? Because:

A) Had it been treated as probably just a prank, no problem it still would have made the news. Next time a city sees boxes like that, they figure publicity, don't worry about it, EXPLOSIONS occur. Terrorists are slime sucking bottom dwelling filth but they are not stupid. They learn.

B)If the city gets lots of flak about this and other cities after respond to it as a prank/publicity also still is in news. After a few undisturbed/no responses terrorist put out similar boxes, city still doesn't bother. EXPLOSIONS occur.

Wasn't a good idea, reaction to it was fully warrented.:mad:
 
I'm surprised by the reaction by so many folks that the think Boston police were idiots. What should the Boston PD's reaction have been in handling a device like this found on a bridge?
 
I'm surprised by the reaction by so many folks that the think Boston police were idiots. What should the Boston PD's reaction have been in handling a device like this found on a bridge?
Good question.

It seems to me the only over reactions are those blaming Boston for over reacting.
 
They were LiteBrites. Shesh. It's sad that we live in such a state of paranoia. Yes, terrorists COULD start using LiteBrites. But until they do, should we get THIS panicy over a lite up cartoon figure? I've seen a picture of the "devices," and I can't imagin how anyone would percieve them as a threat. *shrug*

Where do you draw the line on your fear? Should we eliminate all outdoor trashcans? Terrorists could drop bombs in those, and they'd be well hidden. How about those big blue mailboxes? Same thing, they could be used to hide bombs.

There's millions of things just lying on the ground everywhere that COULD be bombs. A creative person could turn pretty much anything into a bomb. If we're afraid of every single item left around, we're not going to have much time for living, and the bomb squads are going to be awful busy.

Pretty soon we'll all be driving big armored vehicles (Eco friendly of course!) and wearing body armor everywhere we go.

SSR
 
I'm surprised by the reaction by so many folks that the think Boston police were idiots. What should the Boston PD's reaction have been in handling a device like this found on a bridge?

My thoughts?
Send in the bomb squad right away make the devices safe and then consider whether there was an intent to cause panic.

Don't leave them in place for 3 weeks and then decide to prosecute, because in that situation, the Police has caused much more panic than the marketers, without managing to protect anyone at all. Through this aces the police have shown themselves to be idiots, but not because they over reacted.
 
Where do you draw the line on your fear? Should we eliminate all outdoor trashcans? Terrorists could drop bombs in those, and they'd be well hidden.
If you're taking anti terrorism measures seriously that's one of the first thing you do, certainly in the vicinity of likely terrorist targets. I'f your ever in the UK, try and find a rubbish bin at a train station which isn't a clear plastic bag, or a cart with its own attendant/guard.
 
They were LiteBrites. Shesh.

They were devices with wires and batteries in places where those types of devices aren't typically located.

It's sad that we live in such a state of paranoia. Yes, terrorists COULD start using LiteBrites. But until they do, should we get THIS panicy over a lite up cartoon figure? I've seen a picture of the "devices," and I can't imagin how anyone would percieve them as a threat. *shrug*

Where do you draw the line on your fear? Should we eliminate all outdoor trashcans? Terrorists could drop bombs in those, and they'd be well hidden. How about those big blue mailboxes? Same thing, they could be used to hide bombs.

A trashcan is not suspicious. A big blue mailbox is not suspicious. An unclaimed duffle bag at an airport is suspicious. A strange electronic device is suspicious.

There's millions of things just lying on the ground everywhere that COULD be bombs. A creative person could turn pretty much anything into a bomb. If we're afraid of every single item left around, we're not going to have much time for living, and the bomb squads are going to be awful busy.

Yup. The Police have an extremely difficult job in determining credible threats and hoaxes. If they treat a hoax as a real threat, and they are wrong, they inconvienience a lot of people. If they treat a real threat as a hoax, and they are wrong, lives can be lost.

I, for one, am happy that the police in my area err on the side of caution.
 
Don't forget, these things were in 9 other cities without incident. The NYPD is on edge a lot more than the BPD and yet were able to not shut down the City.
 
My thoughts?
Send in the bomb squad right away make the devices safe and then consider whether there was an intent to cause panic.

I definately agree. And there is plenty of sqwaking in the local media about the events of the day (i.e. initial reports from the mayor claim that they were aware of the connection to Turner as early as 3:30, yet they made no mention of this at the 4:30 press conference, which has many people upset that they were kept in a state of panic even though the police knew there was no immediate danger).

Don't leave them in place for 3 weeks and then decide to prosecute, because in that situation, the Police has caused much more panic than the marketers, without managing to protect anyone at all. Through this aces the police have shown themselves to be idiots, but not because they over reacted.

Are you saying that the police knew about the devices for three weeks before yesterday? Do you have a link to this info?

If you are correct, then I am definately willing to change my opinion about the events that unfolded yesterday.
 
Don't forget, these things were in 9 other cities without incident. The NYPD is on edge a lot more than the BPD and yet were able to not shut down the City.

I wasn't aware that the NYPD was notified of the devices.
 

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