Crazy Kofi

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Kofi Annan said today that enforcing a UN resolution without UN approval to enforce the resolution would not be legitimate.

I bet there are some people in Iraq missing hands, eyes, fingers, and even family members from torture who would disagree with Mr. Annan about the legitimacy of removing Saddam. In fact, there are many of them that have escaped Iraq who are fully behind it.

I am afraid the UN is too much a relic of a cold war. Does anyone think the UN will find a solution to the North Korean crisis? The sad thing is, the US has given too much appearance of authority to the UN by trying to do this regime change through it. Its time to cut our losses and stop dealing with the League of Nations II.

 

[a_unique_person]

Kofi Annan said today that enforcing a UN resolution without UN approval to enforce the resolution would not be legitimate.

I bet there are some people in Iraq missing hands, eyes, fingers, and even family members from torture who would disagree with Mr. Annan about the legitimacy of removing Saddam. In fact, there are many of them that have escaped Iraq who are fully behind it.

I am afraid the UN is too much a relic of a cold war. Does anyone think the UN will find a solution to the North Korean crisis? The sad thing is, the US has given too much appearance of authority to the UN by trying to do this regime change through it. Its time to cut our losses and stop dealing with the League of Nations II.

are you ever going to mention the people in angola suffering from an ongoing civil war that was started by the US but has never ended?

 

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are you ever going to mention the people in angola suffering from an ongoing civil war that was started by the US but has never ended?

Probably not. The sad thing is that most people are so isolationist that unless you link Iraq to something like terrorism you will never get enough support to go to war.

Let me ask you. If you were in charge, would you send troops to Angola?

 

[Mike B.]

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are you ever going to mention the people in angola suffering from an ongoing civil war that was started by the US but has never ended?

Yawn...
It is really funny that AUP is shocked that people see him as anti-American. I mean this latest post is case in point. It follows his other posts...no balance, selective quotation of facts, half the story, etc.

Here is some interesting information:

"A: The resumption of conflict has increased landmine deaths and injuries as mines are deployed and populations are displaced across the country. There is an average of 52 land mine incidents per month and approximately 1 out of every 356 Angolans is an amputee. (1) With the renewed fighting, Angola has become one of sub-Sahara's top arms purchasers, using loans, oil profits and mining concessions to buy weapons from Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus. UNITA continues to purchase weapons, primarily from Bulgaria, in violation of a UN-mandated arms embargo. (2) Aid agencies have had difficulty reaching the war's victims. In 1999, the UN estimated that the war displaced more than 2.1 million people. (2)"

I really doubt AUP cares about Bulgaria. Mind you if the US was the chief weapon supplier, AUP would be sure to mention that...Or if the US sent troops like Castro to Angola he would cry foul. I suppose since Castro is anti-American he gets a special dispensation...

 

[a_unique_person]

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Probably not. The sad thing is that most people are so isolationist that unless you link Iraq to something like terrorism you will never get enough support to go to war.

Let me ask you. If you were in charge, would you send troops to Angola?

I wouldn't . I just find it incredible that a 'rebel' movement that was started by the US is now off on it's own genocidal way with no further interest being shown by the states. having served it's purpose as a counter to the perceived threat of the USSR, it now serves no known purpose on earth.

I do, however, believe that if the US pushed a case for intervention, with a proper clean up program for the country, then there would be a lot of sympathy in the UN for a 'peace' program.

 

[a_unique_person]

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Yawn...
It is really funny that AUP is shocked that people see him as anti-American. I mean this latest post is case in point. It follows his other posts...no balance, selective quotation of facts, half the story, etc.

Here is some interesting information:

"A: The resumption of conflict has increased landmine deaths and injuries as mines are deployed and populations are displaced across the country. There is an average of 52 land mine incidents per month and approximately 1 out of every 356 Angolans is an amputee. (1) With the renewed fighting, Angola has become one of sub-Sahara's top arms purchasers, using loans, oil profits and mining concessions to buy weapons from Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus. UNITA continues to purchase weapons, primarily from Bulgaria, in violation of a UN-mandated arms embargo. (2) Aid agencies have had difficulty reaching the war's victims. In 1999, the UN estimated that the war displaced more than 2.1 million people. (2)"

I really doubt AUP cares about Bulgaria. Mind you if the US was the chief weapon supplier, AUP would be sure to mention that...Or if the US sent troops like Castro to Angola he would cry foul. I suppose since Castro is anti-American he gets a special dispensation...

the international arms trade has been raised by me before. Note that the US is the worlds largest exporter of arms. No other country can hold it's head high however, with the rest of Europe having many large arms exporters, starting off with france.

UNITA, however, was founded by the US. Having created this monster, the US has wiped it's hands of the situation.

The US is also still hell bent on developing 'new generation' fighter planes, for example. To fight who? the people it exported it's last generation fighters to. The drug smugglers using cessnas. the odd rusty old mig lying around. where is the threat that this fighter is to counter?

 

[a_unique_person]

an interesting site. Note, the US is not alone.

http://www.caat.org.uk

also

http://www.actsa.org/News/features/170602_angola.htm

Angola's road to peace
Lord Hughes of Woodside, ACTSA's President and the former Chair of ACTSA and the Anti-Apartheid Movement, celebrates the new peace in Angola and looks at the challenges which lie ahead.

"When I first went to Angola in 1976, incidentally the first British MP to do so, there was an air of optimism and hope for the future. Independence had recently been achieved and everyone believed that life would be better for Angolans.

It is true that civil war was on the horizon, but is it reasonable to speculate that without outside interference, the civil war may have been resolved without the massive casualties Angola has suffered. The government of the United States, to whom the MPLA government with its Marxist sympathies was an anathema, overtly and covertly tried to bring down the Angolan government and backed Jonas Savimbi's UNITA movement. The South African apartheid regime also climbed on the bandwagon, claiming it was the bastion of anti-communism.

Blinded by the acceptance of the crude tenet, 'thine enemy is my enemy and my enemy's enemy is my friend', millions of dollars and equipment poured into supporting UNITA. Savimbi's slide into butchery, pillage and loss of whatever initial principle may have been there at the inception of UNITA made no difference to his backers.

 

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I do, however, believe that if the US pushed a case for intervention, with a proper clean up program for the country, then there would be a lot of sympathy in the UN for a 'peace' program.

I am not really sure. Based on the past, I would say there is not much chance of this. The UN is basically a group of self-interested countries (including us) defending their self-interests. Angola does not mean enough to anyone to get anything done.

Remember Kosovo?