Condi Rice and Dick Cheney

[seayakin]

Has anyone seen Condi's new book?

I haven't read it but if her versions of events are correct, my respect for her went up a tick (and frankly my respect for Cheney can't get much lower).

First as national security adviser and later as secretary of state, Ms. Rice often argued against the hard-line approach that Mr. Cheney and others advanced. The vice president’s staff was “very much of one ultra-hawkish mind,” she writes, adding that the most intense confrontation between her and Mr. Cheney came when she argued that terrorism suspects could not be “disappeared” as in some authoritarian states.

New York Times

 

[Upchurch]

I've read only slightly more than what you posted here.

On the one hand, it is awfully continent way to paint yourself in a better light for the history books. On the other hand, It certainly is believable and I would like to believe there was more dissent in the ranks over these policies than what was shown at the time.

 

[BenBurch]

I think you meant "dissent", Upchurch. (I do that too, type homophones of the word I meant.)

 

[Upchurch]

No, I meant "descent in the ranks", like all those demotions over people being outraged.

Yeah, that's what I mean. sure.....

Thanks, Ben.

 

[Alferd_Packer]

Thank {insert diety here} that this thread isn't what I imagined it to be from the title.

Brain scrub time.

 

[Tricky]

Thank {insert diety here} that this thread isn't what I imagined it to be from the title.

Brain scrub time.

That would be kinky. After all, her husband was George Bush.

 

[BenBurch]

That would be kinky. After all, her husband was George Bush.

Hey, I hear there are some busy swinger's clubs in the DC area...

 

[seayakin]

Thank {insert diety here} that this thread isn't what I imagined it to be from the title.

Brain scrub time.

Ack, get it out of my head! Damn you.

 

[hgc]

If she had quit and went public against the US becoming a torture regime, I would have had respect for her. By staying, she abetted the Cheney agenda, and deserves the same hellfire as her bosses.

 

[Newtons Bit]

If she had quit and went public against the US becoming a torture regime, I would have had respect for her. By staying, she abetted the Cheney agenda, and deserves the same hellfire as her bosses.

By staying she was able to continue to argue against it. Quitting when you don't get your way doesn't solve problems.

 

[BenBurch]

By staying she was able to continue to argue against it. Quitting when you don't get your way doesn't solve problems.

One wonders how much worse it would have been had she not been there. If my country were "disappearing" detainees, I would be ashamed. As it is I am ashamed that we had a vice president who thought it a good idea.

 

[leftysergeant]

Shesaw enough that was utterly shameful that she should have abandoned the merry morons and gone public. We would have suffered only one year of their crap instead of eight.

Let her wear the rotting albatross.

 

[hgc]

By staying she was able to continue to argue against it. Quitting when you don't get your way doesn't solve problems.

Argue against it to what effect? She lost the argument. Then she stuck around until the end, defending administration policies in public. That makes her an accomplice.

 

[Cain]

Just another angry lesbian.

 

[Travis]

Argue against it to what effect? She lost the argument. Then she stuck around until the end, defending administration policies in public. That makes her an accomplice.

How so? She was arguing against the summary execution of people accused of terrorism.

 

[Brainster]

Has anyone seen Condi's new book?

How could we, since it is not going to be released until November?

 

[hgc]

How so? She was arguing against the summary execution of people accused of terrorism.

I'm going by the quote from the OP, that she argued that terrorists could not be disappeared as in some authoritarian states. She lost that argument. CIA black prison sites.