Chiropractic woo-personal experience

[rwguinn]

I had to go get a drug test--pre-employment yesterday.
Now, the collection site is one of those Interstate "Driver physicals/ Drug testing/ High school physicals/chiropractic" places, and all they do is collect and send to the lab.
I brought in my medicine cabinet, since I occasionally take a couple of things that will likely show up. He said theat he didn't need the list. I pointed out the pain killer for my knee was narcotic, and he replied "Then why don't you fix your knee"
I responded that I had planned to, but I was being laid off/retiring, and had to start a new position quickly, with no LTD leave available, hence the drug test--and no time to get it fixed just yet.
His attempt at "educating me" was pretty futile, and I think he realized it pretty quick--said I was taking the wrong suppliments, that cortizone simply dissolved the bone, and the other injections didn't work.
I kninda had to agree with him on that last one, since the stuff I was given worked in the Right knee, but not the left-- bone-on-bone doesn't give much room for cartilige growth...
I just wonder how many folks listen to guys like that, and want so to believe that they abandon treatment. Pretty pathetic life, I think...
And he did not list my drugs--I so informed my employer.

 

[Blue Wode]

the collection site is one of those Interstate "Driver physicals/ Drug testing/ High school physicals/chiropractic" places, and all they do is collect and send to the lab.
I brought in my medicine cabinet, since I occasionally take a couple of things that will likely show up. He said theat he didn't need the list.

Was the ‘he’ a chiropractor?

I pointed out the pain killer for my knee was narcotic, and he replied "Then why don't you fix your knee"
I responded that I had planned to, but I was being laid off/retiring, and had to start a new position quickly, with no LTD leave available, hence the drug test--and no time to get it fixed just yet.
His attempt at "educating me" was pretty futile,

Was he offering to fix your knee himself?

and I think he realized it pretty quick--said I was taking the wrong suppliments, that cortizone simply dissolved the bone, and the other injections didn't work.
I kninda had to agree with him on that last one, since the stuff I was given worked in the Right knee, but not the left-- bone-on-bone doesn't give much room for cartilige growth...
I just wonder how many folks listen to guys like that, and want so to believe that they abandon treatment.

If some of the following is anything to go by, I’d hazard a guess that quite a few do:
http://whatstheharm.net/chiropractic.html
(Click on the yellow question mark icons for more details of each case.)


On the subject of chiropractic woo and the potential for harm, it’s surprising to see that the operator of the skeptical chiropractic discussion forum, Chirotalk, has just announced that chiropractic doesn’t cause strokes:

Correction- Chiropractic Doesn't Cause Strokes

Everyone,

I am personally responsible for several threads on chirotalk which speculatively concluded that chiropractic neck manipulations could cause strokes in certain individuals. Recent research has concluded that this concern was unwarranted and I wanted to apologize. I still think it is better to err on the side of caution however it is also important to make corrections when appropriate.

The threads have been removed.

My other comments regarding other problems with manipulation still hold (high number of side effects, ligamentous hypermobilities attributed to and overutilization from treating asymptomatic individuals)

http://chirotalk.proboards3.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=welcome&thread=1206819770&page=1

At first I thought that the announcement was some sort of distasteful April Fools Day joke, but apparently not.

It just makes you wonder what the following three victims of chiropractic (who went public) would have to say about it…

Britt Harwe who suffered a stroke during a visit to a chiropractor and who, as a consequence, hasn't eaten a meal in 15 years and has to survive on nutritional drinks poured directly into her stomach through a feeding tube. See the 2-minute video which accompanies this CBS article:
http://cbs3.com/health/Risk.of.Chiropractic.2.661491.html

Diane Rodrigue, now quadriplegic, whose chiropractor settled out of court for $1,000,000
http://www.faact.com/news/jan232000rodrigue.html

‘Jill’ who featured in this 2-minute video entitled ‘Is a headache worth dying for?’
http://www.neck911usa.com/vide.htm

It’s also worth remembering that Professor Edzard Ernst has warned that the current estimates of serious complications arising from chiropractic spinal manipulation...

...are likely to be the tip of a much bigger iceberg.

http://facilitationclinics.com/forms/20071118EdzardErnst.pdf

 

[ectoplasm]

Chiropractic doesn't cause strokes?

Why did he say that, as there seems to be quite a lot of evidence that it can. I wonder if there was some legal or liability question.

I got a flyer in the mail box yesterday from a new chirpractic clinic that recently opened nearby. They mentioned subluxations and said that chiropractors are "nervous system doctors". At the same clinic they also do detoxification, including the dreaded footbath detox, laser detox (whatever that is ) and some kind of orthotic footbeds to correct your spinal alignmenet.

All your woo in one place.