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Chinese government plan for population control!!!!

kittynh

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Yesterday evening I went to the MIchael Shermer lecture at Harvard. Wonderful and everyone go out and buy the new book.

After everyone went over to a local pub to hang. I somehow ended up to a very unusual person. He HATED Randi, and claimed to have known him. He kept getting the amount of the prize wrong, 1.7 million, 1.5 million, 1.2 million.

He had all sorts of secret projects he was working on, and the computer "proof". You'll be glad to know Alzheimers can be reversed. Well at least on some dude in China.

Now he works in China, and he SWEARS, that the Chinese government PUSHES smoking on all their population as a form a population control. He says that they have told him it kills off a large portion of the population, and all they do medically is send a sufferer home with some pain meds. Oddly, I did think that most of the leaders behind this plan also smoke. It's nice when a population control plan is participated in by officials at the highest ranks!

I'm telling you. It's more fun to sit next to people like this...but next time I'm making sure I get more Shermer time!
 
If you bump into the guy again, tell him you read an article in the Washington Times by Bill Gertz that there's a secret plan in Beijing where the Chinese are going to nuke themselves to control the population.
 
The really sad part is that this man is a professor at Harvard!

He also does a lot of research and stuff in China I guess because they will pretty much let you do anything without such stuff as environmental studies other worthless regulations. This wasn't just some drunk I sat next too.

Drunk he would have been even more interesting.
 
Kitty,
The guys a whack-job. One of many such articles (I see them several times a week) in the Chinese mainland press.

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200510/15/eng20051015_214459.html

This is one of many. Heck, they even had anti-smoking postage stamps back in the 90's.

Like any country, China didn't put a priority on something like anti-smoking, because they had much larger problems to deal with. Now that they've raised the standard of living, there are all sorts of initiatives creeping into the group-think, many even coming from NGO's.

(I'm a smoker - many of my Chinese friends have given it up, but the few of us still of the evil habit complain that you now have to leave the building when you visit our Shanghai or Beijing offices because they've made whole buildings "smoke free", just like in the west.)

There are real issues in China. This one's just a waste of his time. Are you sure this is a credentialed professor? Seems like a whole lot of misdirected energy.
 
There was a eastern european contry that carried out study and discovered that it was in the goverment's inteterests for it's population to smoke. I don't think the recomendation was followed.
 
kittynh said:
He kept getting the amount of the prize wrong, 1.7 million, 1.5 million, 1.2 million.
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For some reason, I find this extremely funny. How hard is to remember one million?
Was that one million or one-million-one-hundred-forty-two-thousand-seventy-eight? I always get those two confused.
 
senorpogo said:
For some reason, I find this extremely funny. How hard is to remember one million?
Was that one million or one-million-one-hundred-forty-two-thousand-seventy-eight? I always get those two confused.
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That's funny! :D

It'sthe currency conversion that does him in. He's probably got the numbers mixed up converting Floridian Pesos into Massachusian Rinminbi. :p
 
Polaris said:
If you bump into the guy again, tell him you read an article in the Washington Times by Bill Gertz that there's a secret plan in Beijing where the Chinese are going to nuke themselves to control the population.
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Be sure to also tell him about China's other secret plan to reduce the population by pushing most couples into only having one child. ;)
 
Well, One thing to mention...

Harvard doesn't suprise me. It was the home to Mack for many years. You remember Mack? Mr. "If you think you've been abducted by aliens, you have. If you don't think you've been abducted by aliens, you probably still have if I can make a book/lecture/buck off of it."
 
Huntsman said:
Well, One thing to mention...

Harvard doesn't suprise me. It was the home to Mack for many years. You remember Mack? Mr. "If you think you've been abducted by aliens, you have. If you don't think you've been abducted by aliens, you probably still have if I can make a book/lecture/buck off of it."
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It isn't particularly Hah-vahd. John Mack is merely an example of just how far academia is willing to go, to allow its members to examine claims, no matter how silly they are.

Having John Mack was an embarrassment, true. But it totally destroyed any Superstitious' claim that academia shunned the World of Woo. John Mack, Gary Schwartz....the freedom and tolerance of science...ahhhh....

It ain't all bad.
 
Jeff is checking out the guys name....he kept bugging Shermer with his stupid thing he is working on with China where they are trying to recycle coal waste.

I pointed out that you can recycle spent nuke fuel, but it isn't done much because it's simply cheaper to make new. In the long run no, but people don't look at the long run.

I asked if it was cheaper to recycle this stuff, or just dig up some more new stuff. He got huffy and said they were working on "cost effectiveness" blah de blah...He seemed to think he had solved global warming. In fact, he was sure he had. He had NO respect for the Chinese people he worked with, and in fact spoke of them quite badly. Like he is the smart dude that is over there using those "human robots" that have no respect for human life - which makes his life and work easier.

I wanted to smack him. My daughter works with many Chinese students, and you know what? They ARE human. And they do love their family, and act much like everyone else. Except this idiot from Harvard.
 
TriangleMan said:
Be sure to also tell him about China's other secret plan to reduce the population by pushing most couples into only having one child. ;)
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That one's neither secret nor fictional.

And it doesn't work all that well, especially in places where Han Chinese aren't the majority, like Xianjiang.
 
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