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Challenge to Kevin Ryan

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I sent the following e-mail to Kevin Ryan:

Dear Mr. Ryan,

Last week I hosted three debates between Jim Fetzer and Mark Roberts. Members of both the rationalist and 9/11 fantasist camps have shown considerable interest in a debate between you and Mark. Are you game?
A poster on the JREF commented that you were pretending on your blog that I "sell" the Popular Mechanics book. Very silly, but you already knew that.

Regards,
Ron Wieck
 
pomeroo said:
I sent the following e-mail to Kevin Ryan:

Dear Mr. Ryan,

Last week I hosted three debates between Jim Fetzer and Mark Roberts. Members of both the rationalist and 9/11 fantasist camps have shown considerable interest in a debate between you and Mark. Are you game?
A poster on the JREF commented that you were pretending on your blog that I "sell" the Popular Mechanics book. Very silly, but you already knew that.

Regards,
Ron Wieck
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Uh Ron...pay attention....waterboy is a no good lying [rule8].
He is afraid to debate anybody that has any semblance of brains. I hope he steps up and answers your challenge like a man but I seriously doubt it and I do question his masculinity.
 
It will be close to a miracle if he ever shows up :)
 
Is it just me or is it The 911 Conspiracy Theory VS Mark Roberts and Ronald Weick?

haha, this would be awesome, I love these debates.
 
JAStewart said:
Is it just me or is it The 911 Conspiracy Theory VS Mark Roberts and Ronald Weick?

haha, this would be awesome, I love these debates.
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Well, if they are ever beaten in a 9/11 debate, we could replace them with some other people. But I doubt that day will ever come :D
 
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I love that these guys are always messing up in identifying who wrote what. I mean, shoot, I would think knowing whether Ron did or did not write said book is important. But what do I know? After all I believe in crazy ideas like that you should actually read the NIST-FEMA-9/11 Commision reports BEFORE you attempt to debunk or just casually dismiss them.
 
Not that I don't really enjoy Mark putting these conspiracists in their place. But wouldn't it be much more embarrassing for them to have a professional in there? Oh- maybe someone from UL?
 
Totovader said:
Not that I don't really enjoy Mark putting these conspiracists in their place. But wouldn't it be much more embarrassing for them to have a professional in there? Oh- maybe someone from UL?
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They had a debate between the boys from LC and Popular Mechanics. It turned out to go something like this:

Jason Bermas said:
I'm not calling anyone a liar, I'm calling YOU a liar
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Ron;

I just want to thank you again for providing this alternative outlet for putting the Fantasists theories to task. It is wonderful to have this small collection of videos to show people who are looking for the real facts.

TAM:)
 
Sounds like it would be a good debate, but Kevin Ryan probably won't show.

If he does, then who would be next?! Get Judy Wood and Ace Baker on the show at one time! :)
 
The following exchange confirms the suspicions about Kevin Ryan:


Mr. Wieck,

Despite your impressive guest list, I'll have to decline. I'm looking to
clarify the issues with those who either have some basic knowledge, or are
at least being taken seriously. I'm sure you can understand.

Hope you keep your humor as time goes on.

Kevin



Dear Mr. Ryan,

Mark Roberts has encyclopedic knowledge of the myths and fallacies
promoted by the 9/11 fantasy movement, particularly the ones associated with
you. Accordingly, your unwillingness to face him in debate was widely
anticipated by members of the rationalist community and is something I
readily understand.

Humor, more specifically, a keen sense of irony, is essential for
you and your colleagues in the snake oil business. I maintain my own spirits
by following the Keystone Kops antics of the leading fantasists as they
attempt, with increasing desperation, to keep their absurd and pernicious
theories afloat.

Ron Wieck
 
pomeroo said:
The following exchange confirms the suspicions about Kevin Ryan:


Mr. Wieck,

Despite your impressive guest list, I'll have to decline. I'm looking to
clarify the issues with those who either have some basic knowledge, or are
at least being taken seriously. I'm sure you can understand.

Hope you keep your humor as time goes on.

Kevin



Dear Mr. Ryan,

Mark Roberts has encyclopedic knowledge of the myths and fallacies
promoted by the 9/11 fantasy movement, particularly the ones associated with
you. Accordingly, your unwillingness to face him in debate was widely
anticipated by members of the rationalist community and is something I
readily understand.

Humor, more specifically, a keen sense of irony, is essential for
you and your colleagues in the snake oil business. I maintain my own spirits
by following the Keystone Kops antics of the leading fantasists as they
attempt, with increasing desperation, to keep their absurd and pernicious
theories afloat.

Ron Wieck
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Are you really surprised. That charltan would never dream of debating anyone that has any type of real scientific knowledge.
 
Uhh, yeah, because the 9/11 conspiracy theory community is being taken so seriously right now...
 
C'mon twoofers - you gonna let Fetzer make your case for you?

I say either Stephen Jones, Kevin Ryan or D R Griffin.

Surely one of the three has the balls to face a NYC tour guide....?
 
Ryan is a puss. He knows damn well that he is a liar and this is EXACTLY the way a liar would respond.
 
CHF said:
C'mon twoofers - you gonna let Fetzer make your case for you?

I say either Stephen Jones, Kevin Ryan or D R Griffin.

Surely one of the three has the balls to face a NYC tour guide....?
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Griffin isn't a scientist he is a theologian. Sort of puts him inside the woo camp. Let Ryan or Jones stand up. Ryan proved his bs with his email to Ron. Jones is the only scientist left..well there is the truther in DC that interviewed Judy Wood. He would be good also but for some reason I can't see him claiming much more than LIHOP.
 
Ask him why he's changed his mind about want to debate Gravy.


Additionally, I volunteered for the National 9/11 Debate (twice actually) but that didn’t happen either because we couldn’t find enough folks with the courage to defend the official conspiracy theory. I personally invited (Pastor?) Mark Roberts to join us in this debate, but he declined.
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You could also ask him why he feels we should put forward someone with relevant qualifications when he himself lacks such things.
 
I sent Ryan the following message:


Kevin,

A poster on the JREF commented that the original debate challenge was issued by you to Mark. He wrote the following:

Ask him why he's changed his mind about wanting to debate Gravy.


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Additionally, I volunteered for the National 9/11 Debate (twice actually) but that didn’t happen either because we couldn’t find enough folks with the courage to defend the official conspiracy theory. I personally invited (Pastor?) Mark Roberts to join us in this debate, but he declined. [Kevin Ryan]


You could also ask him why he feels we should put forward someone with relevant qualifications when he himself lacks such things.

I explained that your challenge was issued BEFORE you had the opportunity to watch Mark in action. I agree wholeheartedly with your decision to preach only to the choir.

Ron
 
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