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Cardiococktail

ksbluesfan

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Someone on another forum recommended this vitamin drink. He claimed it was the reason his father was able to get off of high blood pressure medications. The 3 stents didn't do anything worthwhile apparently.

http://cardiococktail.net/

It sounds like the greatest thing since penicilin.

Cardio Cocktail™ supports:
- Cardiovascular health
- Healthy immune function
- Anti-aging properties
- Improved energy levels
- Improved sexual performance


...you might not believe this, little fella
But it'll cure your asthma too!

Any comments?
 
Well look what it contains:

  • 5 grams of pure pharmaceutical grade l-arginine
  • 5000IU of vitamin D
  • Omega fatty acids
  • B vitamins
  • Vitamin A
  • Vitamin C
  • Fulvic minerals
  • Brazillian açai from cold processed berries
  • Goji from the Himalayan mountains
  • Mangosteen from the island of Sumatra
  • Plus much more
Açai, Goji, Mangosteen and much more. I bet it makes a great laxative. Maybe that exercise will strengthen your heart.

Stay away from the Fulvic minerals though. After all, "Fulvic acid is a powerful detoxer, increases absorption of oxygen, and decreases acidity." (Quote from a website) To much of that acid and the decreases in your acidity could cause you to burst into flames!!!
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Eeeew, I don't think I want anything to do with something that has "vulvic minerals"...what.................oh, fulvic then, sorry........ nevermind.
 
ksbluesfan said:
Someone on another forum recommended this vitamin drink. He claimed it was the reason his father was able to get off of high blood pressure medications. The 3 stents didn't do anything worthwhile apparently.

http://cardiococktail.net/

It sounds like the greatest thing since penicilin.

Cardio Cocktail™ supports:
- Cardiovascular health
- Healthy immune function
- Anti-aging properties
- Improved energy levels
- Improved sexual performance


...you might not believe this, little fella
But it'll cure your asthma too!

Any comments?
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Technically, one could say those same things about a glass of water...

Linda
 
In all seriousness, there was some talk a while back about companies developing "megapills" that otherwise relatively healthy people over the age of 50 should take every day.

Proposed "ingredients" of these pills would contain...

-Aspirin 81mg
-A "statin" at relatively low dose (like lovastatin, 10mg)
-A calcium channel blocker (like amlodipine, 5 mg)
-An angiotensin-receptor blocker (like losartan)
-A B1-selective beta-blocker (like atenolol or metoprolol)
-B12 and folate
-Vitamins A, C, and E

The thought being to "prophylactically" treat for hypertension, provide some anti-oxidant support, slow the heart rate down, keep cholesterol levels in check, provide some protection against stroke, (etc.).

No company is willing to market such a drug, though, and there are some potential downsides to taking a "megapill" (such as inability to individually adjust component dosages). Likewise, this further promotes the thought that a pill will fix or prevent disease in a way that is superior to lifestyle modification. But, we've seen the marketing of some drugs already being combined, like Caduet® (which is atorvastatin and amlodipine). The upside is that this one pill might vastly improve patient adherence to therapy.

Personally, I believe that such a pill would likely add years to people's lives across broad populations, and would be a huge step towards easily implementing an effective "preventive medicine" strategy. Sure, there would be some people who wouldn't be able to tolerate certain components, but overall if such a pill was broadly used I believe we could see a huge and dramatic reduction in the number of strokes and heart attacks that present each year to various hospitals.

Discuss. :)

~Dr. Imago
 
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No takers?

I think a "megapill" could potentially have the biggest impact on overall "community" health, provided there is good compliance, than just about any other intervention besides vaccination.

~Dr. Imago
 
I just saw this thread and with the recent news about studies showing more universal benefits of statins thought it was worth a bump. In the article I read the only real objection raised was the cost - is it worth spending all those thousands on medication that may result in a statistically significant, though still small, reduction in heart attack and stroke? It seems more a question of public health strategy and goals than a medical question.
 
Dr. Imago said:
No takers?
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I am currently taking a medication that warns against taking multivitamins. (Possible side effects and more 'brittle' tendons.) Should be done in a couple of days.

As to a standard multivitamin (or as you suggest, a super multivitamin?):

I grew up with a mom who gave us a standard multivitamin daily. I now drop a Centrum silver a couple of times per week. (Silver to avoid the over iron deal as my liver ages). The Vitamin C megadose fad (IIRC, 70's / 80's) came and went. Not sure what merit it had. Mom had us taking (100 or 200 mg?) vit C pill with our breakfast most days. (Sixties and seventies).
Dr Imago said:
I think a "megapill" could potentially have the biggest impact on overall "community" health, provided there is good compliance, than just about any other intervention besides vaccination.
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Then why not add it to the water supply? :D Wait, I just realized, nobody drinks tap water anymore ... except my kids, since that is what I use to mix the OJ. ;)

Speaking of anti-oxidants, it appears that the mainstream media are getting wise to some of the marketers. What, critical thinking among the press? :eek:

A perfectly decent berry has been hyped, Mona Vie being a product associated with that berry thanks to an MLM. MSNBC borrowed this from Men's Health Magazine.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33191493/ns/health-diet_and_nutrition/page/3/
Açai comes from the Amazon rain forest, where berries cluster atop tall, swaying palms known to locals as trees of life. That those trees are in Brazil not only lends mystique, but taps into a well of positive associations.

"What do you think of when you think of Brazil?" says Brian Wansink, Ph.D., a Cornell University professor who specializes in food psychology. "You think of the girl from Ipanema, a sort of mystical culture where the people know health secrets we don't. If açai came from Omaha, it wouldn't have the same effect."
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Something about hot Brazillian babes and cool fruit juice, heart health, ... I'll be in my bunk. :cool:

DR
 
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