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Bush's Iraqi Platitudes

Charlie Monoxide

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I listened to most of Bush's speech tonight.

I find it unforgivable that Fox pre-empted a new "Family Guy" in order to show it (as well as the other major networks).

After 10 minutes of listening I thought Bush might try a pitch for selling war bonds. He kept on the talking points mentioning both 9/11 and Iraq close together.

I gave up after 15 minutes. I better not find out that Fox then ran the new "Family Guy".

Charlie (I'm not Sunni, I'm not Shia, I'm just lost) Monoxide
 
Wow. :hypnotize A new Family Guy is more watchable than a presidential address to the nation. Either that's some really great toon, or the president is...well...
 
I'm a supporter of the President's Iraqi policy and I find any attempt to pre-empt Family Guy -- presidential speech, transit strike, Britney's separation, explosion of the sun followed by our imminent demise, whatever -- to be unconscionable.

ETA: But geez, I saw that thing between The Simpsons and Family Guy for the first time tonight. Holy Ed was that bad. And the Sunday night game was Atlanta vs. Chicago. Pre-empting that dreck would have moved the President's approval rating up 5 points even if he was just showing off the White House Christmas Holiday Tree. Is Karl off this week?
 
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I would probably feel that the explosion of the sun would slightly outrank a new TV program in interest value but then a lot of people think I'm strange.
 
It sure has - you know Stewie is our skeptic posterboy, don't you.

Now THIS would have kept the Neilsons up for the Whitehouse...

Stewie.jpg
 
thaiboxerken said:
LOL. We found "Capacity" to restart programs.
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According to both Kay and Duelfer's investigations, what we found mostly was a strong desire to restart the programs. This is even maybe a stretch regarding what was actually found.

However, even the desire in Saddam's case should cause a little concern.
This transcript of a recorded conversation in 1991 shows Saddam's complete disregard for human life (they are discussing biological weapons use):
"We will never lower our heads as long as
we live, even if we have to destroy everybody."
Saddam Husayn, January 1991
http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/iraq_wmd_2004/chap1_annxD.html
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Funny stuff, huh?

Gee, we were so much safer with Saddam in control of Iraq :rolleyes:
 
I don't see where Saddam was a threat, he was effectively neutered by sanctions. I have no doubt Saddam wanted to do some bad stuff to americans, he just lacked the capacity.

I think our measure of safety is relatively flat with or without Saddam in power. In fact, I think he kept that middle east area in check, as an opposition to Islamic fundies.
 
Hey Pepto, it's not what they did, it's how they did it. Get it? Or is that still too complicated?
 
I caught a few minutes of the speech on the radio. I liked the part where he addressed the people who disagreed with the decision to go to war with respect.

I thought there was some move away from business as usual, let's divide the country for our political gain kind of crapola that has dominated Bush administration political strategy for awhile.

Of course, three or four minutes probably wasn't enough to evaluate how effective the speech was overall, but from a political point of view all he was trying to accomplish was to strengthen the base a little and to win over some moderates in the country so his administration can have a bit more time to muck about in Iraq. My guess, at least based on the three or four minutes that I heard, is that this speech was an asset with respect to that goal.
 
peptoabysmal said:
"We will never lower our heads as long as we live, even if we have to destroy everybody."
Saddam Husayn, January 1991
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Pepto, January 1991 was before Desert Storm, wasn't it? If so, I thought Saddam had been rendered quite impotent internationally shortly thereafter. From there on, all he really had in his cards was puffing and ranting to the neighbours at the USA, and some shady but well-known back-door deals for oil. Nutless, in short.
 
It was not nearly as bad as Rice trying to defend the wiretaps on meet the press. She answered just about every question by shouting "NINE ONE ONE" over and over as if that justifies anything.
 
I don't see where Saddam was a threat, he was effectively neutered by sanctions.

Well, yes, the poor boy was reduced to murdering and torturing his own nation, and not others.

None of our business.
 
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