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Bush Hobnobbs with Mid East Dictator.

Tmy

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Bush and Musharraf discuss fighting terror. Ya know I think thats a good thing. We need him to get some al Queda dudes hiding in Pakistan.

I just wanted to point out some of the hypocracy. The Whitehouse can go on and on about Dictator "dont call him president" Saddam and Iraqi freedom, bla bla bla. And then here he is with his buddy Dictator...excuse me "President" Musharraf.


Bush mollycoddles Musharraf

It was all bonhomie, firm handshakes, hugs and backslapping when US President George W Bush hosted his favourite dictator, General Pervez Musharraf, whom the former is counting on to deliver Osama bin Laden on a platter, for an hour-long breakfast meeting on Wednesday at his presidential suite at the Waldorf Astoria. The meeting came a day after Bush extended a similar gesture to India's Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.
 
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The executive branch of Egypt is headed by an elected president, while the legislative branch is composed of a bicameral parliament. Article 5 of the Egyptian Constitution states that Egypt is a multi-party democracy. The Political Parties Committee, a six-person panel that President Sadat created in 1976, manages the entry of new political parties. Eleven of the 12 political parties formed since the 1970s were initially denied licenses by the Committee. In each case, after failing to gain party status, the leaders appealed the decision to the judiciary. The courts overturned the committee’s rejections and allowed the new parties to form. In the most recent elections, 14 legal political parties fielded candidates. The Egyptian Constitution of 1971 formally prohibits political parties based on religious identity.
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As a result of the involvement of an independent judiciary, the elections of October-November 2000 are considered to be the fairest of the past decade.
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Tony said:
Is Pakistan in the Mid East?
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Yes, it has borders with Iran and Afghanistan, and is a major player in middle eastern politics.

Where did you think it was?
 
fishbob said:
Another really odd reply: Lay off the weed, man.
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YOU lay off the fish-oil. :)

Politically, Pakistan it is part of the Middle East, especially in terms of diplomacy.

Technically, geographically, Pakistan is not in the Middle East. It is part of Southern Asia.
 
aerocontrols said:
What an odd reply...
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Sorry. I saw Mubarak, and not Musharaf. Carry on. :D

Rikzilla, if you are out there, you and I both need to either drink more caffeine or get some glasses. ;)
 
Tony said:
Is Pakistan in the Mid East?
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I would say no. Pakistan is part of Asia minor.

wollery said:
Yes, it has borders with Iran and Afghanistan, and is a major player in middle eastern politics.

Where did you think it was?
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Iran is marginally Middle Eastern, Afghanistan and Pakistan are neither one Middle Eastern States. France and the US are major players in Middle Eastern politics - that doesn't put them "in the Mid East".
 
wollery said:
Where did you think it was?
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I know the geographical location, but I wasn't aware that Pakistan was considered to be in the "mid east".

Where does the "mid east" end and begin?
 
toddjh said:
Isn't Asia Minor the peninsula that Turkey sits on?

Jeremy
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Yes, my mistake.

It seems to me that there is a name for the geographic region that is made up of India-Pakistan-Tibet-Bangladesh, but I cannot think of the name.

It also occurs to me that some people wouldn't include Tibet in the group.
 
I think the term often used in political/military circles is "SouthWest Asia", which encompasses the Middle East along with the "Stans" and India.

And for Mubarak, (Luke derail thread ;) :p ) Egypt is nominally a democracy and there is political debate allowed, but only so far and only fast and nobody is likely to unseat Honsi until he's good and ready to leave.
 
aerocontrols said:
It seems to me that there is a name for the geographic region that is made up of India-Pakistan-Tibet-Bangladesh, but I cannot think of the name.
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Aren't those all on a subcontinent (except maybe Tibet)? I dunno, I flunked geography. I only remember Asia Minor because of six years of Latin. :)

Jeremy
 
Hutch said:


And for Mubarak, (Luke derail thread ;) :p ) Egypt is nominally a democracy and there is political debate allowed, but only so far and only fast and nobody is likely to unseat Honsi until he's good and ready to leave.
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Good for Egypt. But Mujurahafaffafafaa is "el presidente" of pakistan. Which used to be a democracy until he took over.
 
Tmy said:
Good for Egypt. But Mujurahafaffafafaa is "el presidente" of pakistan. Which used to be a democracy until he took over.
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*sigh* Tmy, you'll just never understand, will you?

Saddam was evil. He was a dictator, he imprisoned political opponents, had people shot. Sure, Musharraf does all of that too, but he's an Asset to the War On Terror (tm)! He's a Good Dictator.

Just like the whole "flip-flop" thing. When John Kerry says something, then says something else, he's "flip-flopping." When Dick Cheney or George Bush does that, they're "clarifying."

(Interestingly, during the 2000 election campaign Bush praised Musharraf, too; when asked about it, he said Musharraf's coup would bring "stability to the region.")
 
aerocontrols said:
Yes, my mistake.

It seems to me that there is a name for the geographic region that is made up of India-Pakistan-Tibet-Bangladesh, but I cannot think of the name.

It also occurs to me that some people wouldn't include Tibet in the group.
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Over here, we refer to it as the indian subcontinent...

Zee
 
Cleon said:
*sigh* Tmy, you'll just never understand, will you?

Saddam was evil. He was a dictator, he imprisoned political opponents, had people shot. Sure, Musharraf does all of that too, but he's an Asset to the War On Terror (tm)! He's a Good Dictator.
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You need to take the long view.

The current policy, pursued since 9/11 encourages muslim extremists in Pakistan and weakens the democratic parties such as that of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto. So when Musharraf is assassinated as he probably will be there is a fighting chance that Pakistan will be dominated by unfriendly, nuclear armed, muslim radicals. This of course will only strengthen the case for the sort of strong decisive leadership that George Bush and his chums offer. :D
 
Regardless of whether or not Pakistan is part of the Middle East, Tmy's essential point that some dictators are more equal than others still holds.

PS- Pakistan is part of Eastern Europe. Duh.
 
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