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Burmese military crackdown

peteweaver

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The last crackdown against pro democracy protesters in Burma killed thousands, and the Burmese military is now cracking down against protesters again.

What can be done to stop the Burmese military junta ?
 
TragicMonkey said:
Do they have oil?
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There's that fish oil they use on their food -- sorry, that's the Thai.

I seem to recall that they do have oil, based on an article in Economist.

Production

Reserves

In re China, from the Burmanews.net:
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The Standard:

CNOOC plans Burma foray - Karen Teo
Wed 27 Oct 2004

CNOOC, China’s dominant offshore oil producer, wants a piece of the onshore action, too, and has set its sights on a country that for political reasons few international oil companies would even contemplate - Burma.
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Some analysts say CNOOC’s involvement with Burma is an opportunistic move to take advantage of the absence of significant foreign competition rather than any great hopes for finding substantial reserves of oil and natural gas.
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“It is also easier for Chinese oil companies to gain access as most oil companies won’t go there,'’ CNOOC spokesman Xiao Zongwei said.
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Burma has 2.46 trillion cubic metres of gas reserves and 3.2 billion barrels of recoverable crude oil reserves, according to Xinhua.
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DR
 
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CNN.com has reported deaths on the backlash.

A disturbing image of bloody sandles on the street (monk's I presume).
 
As if the "freedom and democracy fighter" would care about
oppression and violence.
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Ya, its too bad there is no international organization that is supposed to make sure this sort of thing doesn't happen. One that has representatives from over a hundred countries (including china and Russia) and has councils that are supposed to specialize in human rights.

It would be great if something like that existed...and did its friggin job.
 
Tokorona said:
..yes, Oliver, that explains why, you know, he cited them in his speech and called for tighter sanctions. (That don't matter until Russia and China stop supplying them.)

At least, this answers your question if you mean who you usually do.
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Who is "he"?

Are you talking about the one whose words are spreading
the light of truth and wisdom all around the world? Or the
lying Idiot Chimp? :confused:


Spiegel is also reporting about the current situation and
it doesn't sound very good:

The shootings came after several thousand demonstrators ignored warnings by Burmese soldiers to disperse. A number of arrests were made with other protesters being severely beaten by the government troops. In other parts of Yangon, which used to be the capital city, police fired warning shots into a crowd of up to 70,000 sending thousands running through the streets to escape the bullets.

Source: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,508261,00.html
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ah, just let them have at it. We're tired.

ETA: I think Canada should step in. I hear their tank is repaired and ready for action.
 
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WildCat said:
Natural gas. And Russia and China are falling over each other for the drilling, pipeline, etc rights. And don't forget India!
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Bah. You know how the top supermodels "won't get out of bed for less than $500,000 a shoot"? I can't see us bothering about much for natural gas. It simply isn't sexy enough.

It's going to be hilarious when someone discovers a way to get energy out of something else. Suppose we find a method of cold fusion, but it requires using something stupid like jasper or hummingbird feces? Global politics would completely change overnight. Everybody would be busting to make friends with/seize territory from places nobody cared about before, some countries would rise to riches and power and others would sink into poverlicious obscurity. And dare I say it? I would get a chuckle over the self-important "everyone must listen to our opinions because we have oil" countries finding themselves begging for bit parts at the stage door, like aged silent movie divas trying to revive their careers.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Bah. You know how the top supermodels "won't get out of bed for less than $500,000 a shoot"? I can't see us bothering about much for natural gas. It simply isn't sexy enough.
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We won't bother because the Chinese and Russians don't just have their foot in the door there, they have their whole bodies inside.

I would get a chuckle over the self-important "everyone must listen to our opinions because we have oil" countries finding themselves begging for bit parts at the stage door, like aged silent movie divas trying to revive their careers.
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I can't wait for that day myself!
 
TragicMonkey said:
Bah. You know how the top supermodels "won't get out of bed for less than $500,000 a shoot"? I can't see us bothering about much for natural gas. It simply isn't sexy enough.
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Wrongo, my comedic friend.

My cousin has been working natural gas projects for BP in the Gulf of Mexico, and elsewhere, for over a decade. He left oil drilling for gas production.

Natural Gas is plenty big deal, see US-Qatar relationships. Qatar sits on some of the biggest natural gas reserves on the planet.

DR
 
peteweaver said:
The last crackdown against pro democracy protesters in Burma killed thousands, and the Burmese military is now cracking down against protesters again.

What can be done to stop the Burmese military junta ?
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Sadly,not much.
Oliver's using this situation for his usual Anti American crap is beneath contempt.
 
Soapy Sam said:
When did Myanmar revert to being "Burma" again?
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Officially? It hasn't. Yet. But apparently the US and UK have never recognised the name change, which is studiously avoided by the pro-democracy people.

"Burma" it is then. I like to call it that anyway, because of another oft-forgotten struggle.
 
Tokorona said:
I don't know who the first is, and I don't prefer to randomly insult people (or poison the well) but yes, I did mean President Bush.
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/09/20070925-4.html

Americans are outraged by the situation in Burma, where a military junta has imposed a 19-year reign of fear. Basic freedoms of speech, assembly, and worship are severely restricted. Ethnic minorities are persecuted. Forced child labor, human trafficking, and rape are common. The regime is holding more than 1,000 political prisoners -- including Aung San Suu Kyi, whose party was elected overwhelmingly by the Burmese people in 1990.

The ruling junta remains unyielding, yet the people's desire for freedom is unmistakable. This morning, I'm announcing a series of steps to help bring peaceful change to Burma. The United States will tighten economic sanctions on the leaders of the regime and their financial backers. We will impose an expanded visa ban on those responsible for the most egregious violations of human rights, as well as their family members. We'll continue to support the efforts of humanitarian groups working to alleviate suffering in Burma. And I urge the United Nations and all nations to use their diplomatic and economic leverage to help the Burmese people reclaim their freedom.
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