Breaking News: Bridge Collapse in Minneapolis

They are calling the fact that 60 kids on the bus survived a "miracle" (this only about 4 hours after the incident). While I am very happy for the kids and their families, I think the relatives of those who died would argue with that. It's just dumb, random **** as to who was on that bridge, exactly where and when.
 
Damn I just heard on the news that the casualty list might be up to 30 poor people! That's so terrible! :(
 
casebro said:
You forgot "President Bush was in on the planning. And lied about the reasons".
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The bridge's deck truss has not experienced fatigue cracking. but it has many poor fatigue details on the main truss and floor truss systems. The research helped determine that the fatigue cracking of the deck truss is not likely, which means that the bridge should not have any problems with fatigue cracking in the foreseeable future.

As a result, Mn/DOT does not need to prematurely replace the bridge because of fatigue cracking, avoiding the high costs associated with such a project.


http://kstp.com/kstpImages/Technical Report.pdf
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I will be presenting the Presidential Medal of Freedom to officials at the Minnesota Department of Transportation later today in the East Room of the White House.
 
I read somewhere recently that Minnesota had the second worst traffic congestion (by state) in the USA, a statistic I was quite astonished by. Of course, California was the worst. This bridge failure can only make the problem much worse.

I tried to find a linky for the study but couldn't but I did turn up this interesting table. It lists the worst traffic congestion points in the USA. Do you travel through any of these?
 
ok well it was a very long day, and there's so much going on down there it's hard to sum up everything I saw, and heard from those around.

Firstly, I need to say that the Red Cross, rescue/recovery workers, and all of the professionals in emergency response are unbelievably organized and efficient. They are all working very very hard, especially the divers.

The families of injured at the hotel a few blocks away and the ones still checking for missing are understandably distraught, but there is no hysterics that I saw. It's almost quiet emotionally, where workers and families of loved ones missing or injured alike were either still in shock, or simply unable to release that much emotion, focusing on tasks at hand to keep themselves together.

I've been home trying to nap for a while and can't seem to sleep. I didn't think it would hit me how absent that bridge feels not just when you look over at the disaster, but how its absence permeates the entire area, both in people's faces and in the overall perception of what is the city. It's simply not the same, and it's never going to be the same.

I need to go try to sleep. I don't think I can handle going back there tomorrow, and from what I saw, they will have plenty of help anyway.
 
SezMe said:
I read somewhere recently that Minnesota had the second worst traffic congestion (by state) in the USA, a statistic I was quite astonished by. Of course, California was the worst. This bridge failure can only make the problem much worse.

I tried to find a linky for the study but couldn't but I did turn up this interesting table. It lists the worst traffic congestion points in the USA. Do you travel through any of these?
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I don't know about the facts, what measurements were used, etc. I only know that it sucks commuting in the Twin Cities. I count my blessings every day that my commute to work is less than five minutes.
 
BTW, this has a minor extra side-story in Detroit. Apparently one of the Detroit Piston's assistant coaches just missed being on the bridge by about 20 seconds.
 
alfaniner said:
They are calling the fact that 60 kids on the bus survived a "miracle" (this only about 4 hours after the incident). While I am very happy for the kids and their families, I think the relatives of those who died would argue with that. It's just dumb, random **** as to who was on that bridge, exactly where and when.
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I thought the same thing when I heard that remark on tv.!

So God extended his hand to the kids, but left some others to be horribly squashed and perhaps die agonizing deaths?
 
Iamme said:
I thought the same thing when I heard that remark on tv.!

So God extended his hand to the kids, but left some others to be horribly squashed and perhaps die agonizing deaths?
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It's all part of His plan. They are in a better place now. Except those who didn't find Jesus before God took them. And the rescuers helped keep people alive, thus delaying His plan. They are heroes, though, because He put them there and gave them the skills. It's all a part of His plan, but you still have free will, so repent and accept Him now! My head hurts.
 
Snide said:
I don't know about the facts, what measurements were used, etc. I only know that it sucks commuting in the Twin Cities. I count my blessings every day that my commute to work is less than five minutes.
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My commutes, despite working in multiple locations, are usually on 494. My current one is along the Bloomington Strip in the early afternoon. It's only congested between 100 and 35w, but otherwise pretty easy. Years ago I used to have to go 394 during rush hour, that hell I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
 
CptColumbo said:
My commutes, despite working in multiple locations, are usually on 494. My current one is along the Bloomington Strip in the early afternoon. It's only congested between 100 and 35w, but otherwise pretty easy. Years ago I used to have to go 394 during rush hour, that hell I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
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Key, I think, is "early afternoon." But yeah, generally, that strip of 494 isn't so bad considering the volume it handles, sans construction. But maybe we're just getting used to it(?)
 
Snide said:
Key, I think, is "early afternoon." But yeah, generally, that strip of 494 isn't so bad considering the volume it handles, sans construction. But maybe we're just getting used to it(?)
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About a year ago I came from Minnetonka during rush hour and 494 was clear until 169. Then it was real bad.
 
Beerina said:
BTW, this has a minor extra side-story in Detroit. Apparently one of the Detroit Piston's assistant coaches just missed being on the bridge by about 20 seconds.
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That was actually head coach Flip Saunders and his daughter. Scary!

"I usually take the 35W bridge, but the ramp was closed," Saunders said Thursday from Minneapolis in a telephone interview. "My daughter was driving in a car right behind me when the bridge collapsed - about 20 yards away from us..."
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Your avatar made me remember how Da Crusher used to call Lake Minnetonka, "Minitinki Lake."

Bring back the AWA, especially "Rock n'Roll" Buck Zoomoff and "Maddog."
 
CptColumbo said:
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Your avatar made me remember how Da Crusher used to call Lake Minnetonka, "Minitinki Lake."

Bring back the AWA, especially "Rock n'Roll" Buck Zoomoff and "Maddog."
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Maddog Veshon? Vs. The Crusher?
 
Iamme said:
Maddog Veshon? Vs. The Crusher?
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I would've pay good money to see that match. The main event I got to see live at the old Minneapolis Auditorium was Crusher vs. Nick Bachwinkle (don't remember how to spell it) in a cage match. Jesse and Adrian were in one of the prior matches, but I don't remember who they fought.
 
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