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Book says Randi claimed genuine ESP?

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This was brought up on discussion on Digital Spy website,the book is Anomalist books:Electricty of the mind by Tim Cridland
takes a long, hard look at the career of leading skeptic James Randi.
Author states Randi claimed genuine ESP in 1950 staing he gained the abilities aged 9years old.(cant find reference for this quote)

http://www.zem.demon.co.uk/claims.htm

Without full article/context it's hard to know. I do know author is a woo ;)

Anyone got any knowledge of this?
 
Here's the thread answer
The newspaper article in which Randi makes those statements is reprinted in Randi's "The Truth About Uri Geller". He has since of course divorced himself from such claims but I included it in the "magicians' claims" section in order to show how many magicians have been happy to imply that they are the real thing when it suits them. One of Randi's magical heros, Joseph Dunninger, actually believed in and publicly promoted the exisitence of telepathy (his statements to that effect appear on the same page).
 
Answers.com doesn't say anything about it but Wiki does:
In his twenties, Randi posed as a psychic to establish that they were actually doing simple tricks and briefly wrote an astrological column in the Canadian tabloid Midnight under the name "Zo-ran," by simply shuffling up items from newspaper astrology columns and pasting them randomly into a column.[12][13]
12 ^ Randi, James (1982). The Truth About Uri Geller. Prometheus Books. pp. 230–231. Randi reprints two newspaper columns from the Toronto Evening Telegram of August 28, 1950 and August 14, 1950 by Wessely Hicks about Randall Zwinge's psychic predictions. The earlier column states that "Mr. Zwinge said he first became aware that he possessed Extra Sensory Perception when he was nine years old."
13 ^ Randi, James (1982). Flim-flam!. Prometheus Books. pp. 61–62.
Steve Knight above must have been referring to these sources.


Sorry, end of thread. ;)
 
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What does Randi say in his own defense? Did he actually believe and then saw the light, or did he make the claim as part of his act?
 
Even if it were true(and I remain unconvinced) it doesn't discredit anything Randi has done since.

So what if 60 years he said that? He decided to be honest and come clean about it and fight for others to stop lying about it.
 
It's nor me making any claims about Randi ,just so were clear ;)
A psoter[bollywood- in this thread http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?p=52358544#post52358544

Is claiming Randi is dishonest about his past,saying he became a skeptic as there was money in it and was just as dishonest as Geller.
She cnat get passed Randi liek any believer.

Edit : Seems I posted about this before some years ago on this forum! Bad memory! it was 6 years ago. ;)
 
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Even if it were true(and I remain unconvinced) it doesn't discredit anything Randi has done since.

So what if 60 years he said that? He decided to be honest and come clean about it and fight for others to stop lying about it.

According to Skeptic Ginger's last post, he was merely doing what he does now. He was claiming to have powers to demonstrate that such things can be done with simple magician tricks. Very cool.
 
I remember hearing an interview with Mr. Randi where he related the story of his turning point with regard to honesty in magic. He said that as a young performer he used to do a mentalism act, and one night a gentleman approached him after the show and offered him a large sum of money to pick horses for the guy to bet on.

He went on to say the idea of exploiting the man's credulity in such a way bothered his conscience, so he told the guy it was all just a magic act, that his performances were tricks, and he did not really possess any supernatural abilities to read minds or tell the future. As I recall the story, Randi said that the guy refused to accept that answer and persisted with his entreaties, until it became obvious that the man was suffering some desperate situation. Randi said, in essence, that experience made him realize that for some people credulity is a terrible weakness, and to take advantage of that weakness would be a moral failing on his part. And that was when he made a decision to never misrepresent himself or his act ever again, and started down the road of skepticism and the exposing of liars and frauds.

I'm assuming this event must have happened some time after those newspaper interviews took place.

Now I feel it's important to point out that I'm recalling this story from an interview I heard at least a few months—and maybe even years—ago, so of course I might have gotten some of the details wrong. If I manage to look up the interview, I'll post a reference for you.
 
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What does Randi say in his own defense? Did he actually believe and then saw the light, or did he make the claim as part of his act?
Did you skip all the posts after the OP?
In his twenties, Randi posed as a psychic to establish that they were actually doing simple tricks and briefly wrote an astrological column in the Canadian tabloid Midnight under the name "Zo-ran," by simply shuffling up items from newspaper astrology columns and pasting them randomly into a column.[12][13]
 
Even if it were true(and I remain unconvinced) it doesn't discredit anything Randi has done since.

So what if 60 years he said that? He decided to be honest and come clean about it and fight for others to stop lying about it.
While I agree with the second part of your post, did you also skip all the posts after the OP?
In his twenties, Randi posed as a psychic to establish that they were actually doing simple tricks and briefly wrote an astrological column in the Canadian tabloid Midnight under the name "Zo-ran," by simply shuffling up items from newspaper astrology columns and pasting them randomly into a column.[12][13]
 
Even if he did act badly in the past, I think a life of repentence more than makes up for it.

Changing your mind for the better is a GOOD thing. It doesn't make you guilty of hypocrisy or waffling.
 
I had a mullet, briefly.
It was a long time ago, and I was in a country-rock band.
I'm not proud of it.

(The keyboard guy had a perm.)


Feels analogous somehow.
 

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