Bliar/Brown- its the economy!

[Jon_in_london]

The one area in which Labour have succeeded is the economy..... or have they?

Manufacturing is scrapped, fishing is wrecked, agriculture is almost buried and now the years of consumers borrowing over the odds for personal loans and mortgages they cant afford, the retail sector is past its sell by date.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,16849-1596982,00.html

Wake up on friday with Bliar and Brown and look forward to the stark truth behind Brown's economic "miracle"

Have a happy recession!

 

[asthmatic camel]

Although I don't always agree with you, I'm afraid that you're depressingly correct this time. One crumb of comfort is that Gordon Brown, currently so popular, is not going to have much to smile about when Tony hands over the hot seat.

 

[Jon_in_london]

Well, me and the trouble n' strife are pretty well bunkered up for a recession. A well feathered bank account, no debt nor mortgage and at least one public sector job.

Should be alright.

 

[Jon_in_london]

Hmmmmm....

do you think impending economic difficulty could be why Bliar called the election so much earlier than he had to?

Wouldnt suprise me, the wily old weasel!

 

[brodski]

Hmmmmm....

do you think impending economic difficulty could be why Bliar called the election so much earlier than he had to?

Wouldnt suprise me, the wily old weasel!

Blair called the election about 4 years after the last one, which is the customary time, I he left it any longer the accusation would have been that Blair was desperately hanging on to his majority for as long as possible, knowing that the election would be a disaster. I really wouldn't read too much into the timing of this election.

 

[Darat]

The one area in which Labour have succeeded is the economy..... or have they?

Manufacturing is scrapped, fishing is wrecked, agriculture is almost buried and now the years of consumers borrowing over the odds for personal loans and mortgages they cant afford, the retail sector is past its sell by date.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,16849-1596982,00.html

Wake up on friday with Bliar and Brown and look forward to the stark truth behind Brown's economic "miracle"

Have a happy recession!

Well it will be nice to have another Labour one, it will make a change from the last two Tory ones!

Seriously I have serious doubts how much responsibility any government (in the modern world) has for the overall strength or weakness of the economy.

 

[asthmatic camel]

Re: Re: Bliar/Brown- its the economy!

Well it will be nice to have another Labour one, it will make a change from the last two Tory ones!

Seriously I have serious doubts how much responsibility any government (in the modern world) has for the overall strength or weakness of the economy.

The government has a great deal of responsibility. Rolls of red tape, swingeing tax increases etc. place an enormous burden on businesses, preventing investment and growth.

 

[Jon_in_london]

Re: Re: Bliar/Brown- its the economy!

Well it will be nice to have another Labour one, it will make a change from the last two Tory ones!

Seriously I have serious doubts how much responsibility any government (in the modern world) has for the overall strength or weakness of the economy.

Like the Labour ones that came before the Tory ones and so on ad infinitum.

So you dont think that the UK's drop from about the 5th most attractive place to do business to about the 20th has anything to do with Labour's taxes and red-tape?

 

[jay gw]

If the European economies don't detach themselves from the US, they're going to be in very big trouble.

Part of the problem is that Britain can't trade much with other European countries. There doesn't seem to be a big market there. Too many unions, too much socialism, too many regulations.

What ever happened to all that investment money that was supposed to pour into Eastern Europe, anyway? Has anything really happened?

 

[Darat]

Re: Re: Re: Bliar/Brown- its the economy!

Like the Labour ones that came before the Tory ones and so on ad infinitum.

Now don’t be silly, the Liberals used to have a go at it as well a long time ago.

So you dont think that the UK's drop from about the 5th most attractive place to do business to about the 20th has anything to do with Labour's taxes and red-tape?

How was that measured?

Perhaps if that is the case it may be caused more by the fact that we as a society have wanted more for individuals in society so have empowered governments (and the Conservatives were every bit as good as Labour is at creating red-tape) to ensure that business have to comply with more regulations.

(Edited for words.)

 

[asthmatic camel]

Let's not forget that foreign policy also has a direct effect upon the economy. Apart from the enormous costs involved in going to war which are a terrible drain, already shaky investors become far less willing to risk their cash.

Is the Middle East any more stable as a result of the war? No, it is not, and was never going to be. Turning an already volatile region which is vital to economic stability into a war zone made absolutely no sense.

We'll pay the price for years, if not decades.

 

[brodski]

Let's not forget that foreign policy also has a direct effect upon the economy. Apart from the enormous costs involved in going to war which are a terrible drain, already shaky investors become far less willing to risk their cash.

Is the Middle East any more stable as a result of the war? No, it is not, and was never going to be. Turning an already volatile region which is vital to economic stability into a war zone made absolutely no sense.

We'll pay the price for years, if not decades.

And exactly which mainstream political party would not have gone to war?

All members of the Privy Council had access to the same intelligence. Howard was well aware of the "facts" but supported the war anyway, and is therefore by your logic unfit to run the UK economy.

 

[asthmatic camel]

And exactly which mainstream political party would not have gone to war?

All members of the Privy Council had access to the same intelligence. Howard was well aware of the "facts" but supported the war anyway, and is therefore by your logic unfit to run the UK economy.

Had the truth been told at the time, I doubt that any political party would have opted for war. There were no WMDs. Saddam was contained. Blair was wrong.