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Biological Origin to Homosexuality??

slimshady2357

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BillHoyt said:
Welcome back from our commercial break, sports fans. A quick recap:

3/27: (Titananarchy) "However mammalian reproduction introduces a third reason which is biological in origin but which does not require a genetic precursor to happen."

3/27: (BillHoyt) "Balderdash. If it is biological, it is genetic, sir. Stop with the lame proclamations and get to marshalling evidence."

3/28: (Titananarchy) "Absolutely, but later. I'm busy but I will try to return to this later today or tomorrow with evidence of how a biological difference can happen without a direct genetic cause in humans, and in a burst of keeping to the subject of the thread, how homosexuality (or come to think of it) heterosexuality arises in humans."

3/29:[Note: this would have been "tomorrow" - bh ]

4/1: (Titananarchy) "I will start a thread with the biological explanation of homosexuality (and come to think of it, heterosexuality) soon. However i) I have some coursework related to my degree which requires much of my time ii) my wife is expecting our first child and there's a lot of preparation to do and iii) I'm having hand problems related to RSI."

4/2: (Titananarchy) "Again, I have got to travel to the West Coast of America tomorrow, returning Sunday. I will probably start a new thread towards the end of next week, when I have discharged my other responsibilities first."

Tomorrow has come and gone. As has "soon," which is now replaced with "towards the end of next week." The excuse count, however, slowly rises in the east as he heads to the west. Even the beer and peanut vendors are now leaving the stands, and the maintenance guy is turning off the stadium lights.

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Ok Titan.... we're still waiting....

Any chance of you marshalling your evidence this week like you said or are we in for another week's wait?

I know I'm still interested in seeing it, I'm sure others are too.

Don't leave us all hanging... any longer... yet...

Adam
 
Well it looks like we'll be waiting and waiting some more :rolleyes:

From Titananarchy

I'd love to, but I'm down to typing wth one hand and using the mouse with that same wrong hand...I'm sure it can wait.

I'm under doctor's (and come to think of it, wife's) orders to reduce what little time I have on the computer to a minimum.
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I hereby apologize to Bill and AP.

Adam
 
Q-Source said:
Adam,

Do you have a link to read the conversation of your starting post?
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Sure, but I actually came into the thread in the end.

Here is the thread.

It has some interesting information, even right until the end.

Unfortunately none of it from Titan regarding this new biological information.

Adam
 
There are several...possibly testable... models for evolutionary sources of homosexuality. At least one school supposes that primates are mostly social by nature, and small subgroups with common genes (i.e. immediate "families") may prove more fit when not all members reproduce than when all reproduce, due to the economics of food and the extended childhood. If that works, then selection at the cohort level rather than individual level will tend to produce cohorts with a certain fixed, possibly small proportion of members who, while behaviorally loyal to their cohort, do not reproduce.
Another model yet to be investigated is simply that homosexual tendency is a side effect of genes which usually occur in reproductively favorable configurations, but which will produce homosexuals in a fixed proportion, because the reproductive benefit of the genes to the cohort more than overwhelm the reproductive disadvantage caused by the production of a few non-reproductively-motivated individuals.
If a particular genetic factor is or were to be tentatively identified with one of these patterns, then the notion could be tested using as control a population in which that genetic factor is completely absent.
NB that each of these models operates on the level of genes in populations, without investigating any of the hormonal, neurological, or perceptual roots of sexual behavior. Actual field observations of non-human primates reveals very complex and richly varied sexual behaviors.
 
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