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The first video is the 'Talking Points Memo' segment of his show from 10/25/10 and the second video, also from 10/25/10, is of his first guest, Ahmed Rehab, from C.A.I.R. ... Both videos are pretty short and quick to watch.
Where to start...
Ok. I'm sure most of you know that Bill thinks there is a 'Muslim problem around the world.'
The way I see it, it's a problem with a small group of Muslim extremists who are twisting the words of the Qur`an and using that as one of their reasons for waging war on The USA & our allies.
In these videos Bill keeps referring to "A Muslim Problem".
He cites the '70% of Americans don't want the "Ground Zero" mosque built at that location.
He says that "Conservatives generally believe that there is a major Muslim Problem in the world and Liberals tend to downplay the situation."
Then he has his guest on the show, Ahmed Rehab.
He & his guest had an exchange and Bill ticked me off, per usual. Some of the stuff talked about below.
Basically the things that piss me off about this are:
1. Bill & guys/ gals like him in the National Media using the term "Muslim Problem" to describe the crazy extremist radical groups like the Taliban, Al Queda, etc...
I'm an atheist now, but was born a Jew. I know all to well what can happen when people start saying it's a "(insert your group here) Problem". I really hate the way he generalizes Muslims.
2. Where is the source for the 70% of Americans don't want the Community Center (or terror training victory mosque, as some would have you believe) to be built 2 blocks away from GZ? Is that a Fox News poll? I never got surveyed. And even if 99% of Americans didn't want it to be built, it wouldn't & shouldn't matter. It's their building and they can do what they want with it.
3. When he has the number of civilians killed stat graphic on the screen, he says ''X'' amount of people have been killed since 9/11 from "Muslim terror activity", even though the screen reads Islamic Extremists. Again, he's using just the word "Muslim", not separating moderate from extremist.
P.S. - For the record, if citizens of Earth made me king and said they'd do as I wished, the first thing I'd do is make religion, all religion, be a part of history. Put it all on the bookshelves next to other works of fiction. I think we'd be a better planet without any religion. It's such a 'Dark Ages' way of thinking. Maybe one day the world will realize this, but I ain't holding my breath.
Anyway, I had to vent about Bill O` a little.
I know it's a huge wall of text, and may be cluttered, but please chime in.
Where to start...
Ok. I'm sure most of you know that Bill thinks there is a 'Muslim problem around the world.'
The way I see it, it's a problem with a small group of Muslim extremists who are twisting the words of the Qur`an and using that as one of their reasons for waging war on The USA & our allies.
In these videos Bill keeps referring to "A Muslim Problem".
He cites the '70% of Americans don't want the "Ground Zero" mosque built at that location.
He says that "Conservatives generally believe that there is a major Muslim Problem in the world and Liberals tend to downplay the situation."
Then he has his guest on the show, Ahmed Rehab.
He & his guest had an exchange and Bill ticked me off, per usual. Some of the stuff talked about below.
- Ahmed says that Muslims around the world do speak out against extremism & Bill cuts him off and says they don't because 'The Taliban will cut your head off if you support the USA.' While that may happen in Afghanistan & Pakistan, I don't believe it happens in places such as Europe or Australia. In fact, has anyone been beheaded for saying they support the USA? I'm sure their may have been, but Bill would have you believe that the USA is the only place you're safe if you speak out.
- Ahmed calls him out on his use of the phrase "Muslim Problem" by stating what most of us know. Ahmed very correctly says that Bill is the one with the problem, because the way Bill sees it...the problem exists because they're Muslim. Therefore, it's a Muslim problem.
- He tells Bill that is incorrect logic. Says that the problem is not because they're Muslim, but it's because these groups of people are extremists. Says that those who are Muslim and not extremists aren't a part of the Muslim problem, are they. So it's not a Muslim problem.
- They talk for another minute or so & Bill says that they'll have to have a gentleman's disagreement about how much action the moderate Muslims have taken to help the problem.
Basically the things that piss me off about this are:
1. Bill & guys/ gals like him in the National Media using the term "Muslim Problem" to describe the crazy extremist radical groups like the Taliban, Al Queda, etc...
I'm an atheist now, but was born a Jew. I know all to well what can happen when people start saying it's a "(insert your group here) Problem". I really hate the way he generalizes Muslims.
2. Where is the source for the 70% of Americans don't want the Community Center (or terror training victory mosque, as some would have you believe) to be built 2 blocks away from GZ? Is that a Fox News poll? I never got surveyed. And even if 99% of Americans didn't want it to be built, it wouldn't & shouldn't matter. It's their building and they can do what they want with it.
3. When he has the number of civilians killed stat graphic on the screen, he says ''X'' amount of people have been killed since 9/11 from "Muslim terror activity", even though the screen reads Islamic Extremists. Again, he's using just the word "Muslim", not separating moderate from extremist.
Why can't he just say Muslim? That's the thing about Bill... He won't separate the two. He groups moderate Muslims in with Extremist Muslims. He won't admit he's wrong in doing that and he won't stop generalizing. Maybe 1 in 20 times he'll say 'Moderate Muslim', but you rarely hear him say it.
With the way people listen to him, and follow his words, it's scary to think the effect he's having on people who don't know anything about Muslims other than what they get from him and his fellow conservative pundits on TV and radio.
With the way people listen to him, and follow his words, it's scary to think the effect he's having on people who don't know anything about Muslims other than what they get from him and his fellow conservative pundits on TV and radio.
- What do you guys/ladies think of this and others like Bill?
- Should they make an effort to call them what they are, Islamic Extremists, and stop saying it's "A Muslim Problem"?
P.S. - For the record, if citizens of Earth made me king and said they'd do as I wished, the first thing I'd do is make religion, all religion, be a part of history. Put it all on the bookshelves next to other works of fiction. I think we'd be a better planet without any religion. It's such a 'Dark Ages' way of thinking. Maybe one day the world will realize this, but I ain't holding my breath.
Anyway, I had to vent about Bill O` a little.
I know it's a huge wall of text, and may be cluttered, but please chime in.
