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Bill O'Reilly is Completely Dishonest

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So he gets on TV and claims that he checked through the FOX archives and no one, EVER, EVER said that the new health care law mandated jail time on his "news" channel.

Please, watch that mashup. Has there ever been a more dishonest news organization? Hearst? The libels in old England?

Anyone care to defend this? First off, did he tell the truth?

More importantly, did FOX tell the truth when they repeatedly told their viewers that they'd go to jail under the new law?
 
"This just in: Bill O'Reilly found to be dishonest. Also recently confirmed; snow cold, sky up, oxygen breathable."
 
Tonight he shifted by saying that no one ever said that after the bill was passed, so it was legitimate to say it before and proper.

I personally hate him because he treated a transgendered student as a joke just a few nights ago. It was sick.
 
Tsukasa Buddha said:
Tonight he shifted by saying that no one ever said that after the bill was passed, so it was legitimate to say it before and proper.

I personally hate him because he treated a transgendered student as a joke just a few nights ago. It was sick.
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Of course, it wasn't TRUE whether they said it before or after. It was always a lie. Just flat out lying pretending to be news.
 
Unabogie said:
Of course, it wasn't TRUE whether they said it before or after. It was always a lie. Just flat out lying pretending to be news.
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But if they said it before the law was passed, they were just wrong - uh mistaken- uh mislead by evil liberals, yeah, mislead by evil liberals, not lying, That's the ticket!*


* appropriate credit here given for inspiration of the above post to Jon Lovitz of SNL.
 
cwalner said:
But if they said it before the law was passed, they were just wrong - uh mistaken- uh mislead by evil liberals, yeah, mislead by evil liberals, not lying, That's the ticket!*
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how about "were given bad intelligence"? That's a popular one.
 
atleast his bad "intelligence" didnt kill anyone yet.
 
OK, O'Reilly obviously lied. But is the claim that you could go to jail really false?

If I don't get insurance, and am then fined via the IRS, can I refuse to pay that fine without the possibility of going to jail for tax evasion? Seems like a pretty far fetched scenario, but I can see some folks sending in their income tax payment, less the health insurance penalty, just to prove a point. Or is the penalty something separate from income tax such that failing to pay the penalty doesn't fall under the laws of tax evasion?
 
cwalner corrected for context said:
Of course Franken may have exaggerated lied but it makes a good story.
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No doubt, as do most tall tales ...

Personally ,I have no problem with a judge laughing a plaintiff out of court if said plaintiff shows up with nothing but rubbish and hot air. I sincerely hope Franken was telling the truth, and I am no fan of Franken.

DR
 
mortimer said:
OK, O'Reilly obviously lied. But is the claim that you could go to jail really false?

If I don't get insurance, and am then fined via the IRS, can I refuse to pay that fine without the possibility of going to jail for tax evasion? Seems like a pretty far fetched scenario, but I can see some folks sending in their income tax payment, less the health insurance penalty, just to prove a point. Or is the penalty something separate from income tax such that failing to pay the penalty doesn't fall under the laws of tax evasion?
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Yes, it is a lie. There is nothing in the bill about criminal penalties. However, if you willfully evade taxes you could go to jail under current tax law. This is true whether you protest your taxes and withhold a percentage because you oppose defense spending, or medicare spending, or stem cell research, or dog catching. It's still unlawful to willfully evade your taxes.

But, and this is the crux of the lie, even then, it's extremely rare for someone to ever be convicted of tax evasion. Politfact put the number at ~500 for all of last year.

Furthermore, in the current HC law, they've expressly waived even tax evasion prosecutions and instead said they'll merely take it out of your refund. So even though there were never, EVER criminal penalties in the bill, they went the extra mile and expressly prohibited them in the Senate bill. That bill, as you know, was released in what, September of last year? So that means this hasn't been close to an issue for 8 months, and was a weaselly, twisted, truth-like but not true issue before that.

IOW, it's a lie.
 
O'Reilly outmatches the rest of Fox News when it comes to aggression, bullying, ego and losing his temper.

In fairness, though he's actually smarter and less ideological than most of the other Fox pundits (although that isn't saying a whole lot). He called Laura Ingraham a blind ideologue. He's also called conservative talk show hosts such as Limbaugh "“idiots,” “charlatans,” and “right-wing liars.” who don't care about the people and fly around in private jets smoking expensive cigars. He may be getting worse though, it's been quite awhile since I've seen his program.

But yeah, I still hate him. Him for being an a-hole, and people like Hannity, Steve Douchey, Glenn Beck, Varny etc etc for being mindless idiots/phonies.
 
mortimer said:
If I don't get insurance, and am then fined via the IRS, can I refuse to pay that fine without the possibility of going to jail for tax evasion? Seems like a pretty far fetched scenario, but I can see some folks sending in their income tax payment, less the health insurance penalty, just to prove a point.
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Some people sometimes refuse to pay all or part of their taxes to protest a government policy. For example, some people refused to pay taxes or the part of the tax that goes to the military during the Vietnam war.

Could you go to jail for it? Yes, in theory, just like you could go to jail for refusing to pay any (legal) tax. In practice, you will probably be given many chances to pay before you are actually prosecuted.
 
Skeptic said:
Some people sometimes refuse to pay all or part of their taxes to protest a government policy. For example, some people refused to pay taxes or the part of the tax that goes to the military during the Vietnam war.

Could you go to jail for it? Yes, in theory, just like you could go to jail for refusing to pay any (legal) tax. In practice, you will probably be given many chances to pay before you are actually prosecuted.
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You really can't pay the tax if you are in jail, so the government would be motivated to keep you out of jail. More than likely, the IRS would just ruin your life.
 
cornsail said:
In fairness, though he's actually smarter and less ideological than most of the other Fox pundits (although that isn't saying a whole lot). He called Laura Ingraham a blind ideologue. He's also called conservative talk show hosts such as Limbaugh "“idiots,” “charlatans,” and “right-wing liars.” who don't care about the people and fly around in private jets smoking expensive cigars. He may be getting worse though, it's been quite awhile since I've seen his program.
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I occasionally flip onto his show, usually if there is some "hot" topic I'm slightly interested in his opinion on. Every once in a blue moon he says something rational.

I still find "pinhead" to be the most inoffensive insult I've heard on tv in a long, long time.
 
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