Best quote from a truther I've seen (by snowcrash)

[tsig]

It took me several days of on-and-off reading to get through this thread at truthaction, but it was worth it: a) for the lulz b) for the excellent way Kat Dorman explains a lot of collapse-related building mechanics - what's right and wrong about Bazant, wrong with Chandler and pretty much all the other ae911t morons. Also, nice insight into the history of one smart truther.

Recommended!

From Kat Dorman:

Inevitably, those most certain about alleged violations of physics have the least education and experience in the relevant fields, preferring to believe they were born with the acumen "most of us" had to study hard to achieve.


Sums up woo of all sorts.

 

[Jango]

"Yeah, perhaps it's time to stop pretending there is a movement, which implies unity of some kind, while all we have is a scattered, tattered, splattered and battered gaggle of idle chatter which no longer matters."

From snowcrash at Truth Action:

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=48878#48878

It matters, but just because it matters does not = that it is on enough American adult's radars sufficient enough to have any sort of response from the government. What further complicates the issue is the poisoning of the well about 9/11 with theories like no planes, neutron bombs and space-based energy weapons.

 

[beachnut]

It matters, but just because it matters does not = that it is on enough American adult's radars sufficient enough to have any sort of response from the government. What further complicates the issue is the poisoning of the well about 9/11 with theories like no planes, neutron bombs and space-based energy weapons.

Is that the best 911 truther quote you have?

911 truth is poisoning their own well? All of 911 truth is BS, and fantasy.

 

[Oystein]

... What further complicates the issue is the poisoning of the well about 9/11 with theories like no planes, neutron bombs and space-based energy weapons.

Add nanothermite to the list.
The items you listed are more the obscure minority claims.
Nanothermite is mainstream among truthers. But every bit as crazy.

 

[Jango]

Add nanothermite to the list.
The items you listed are more the obscure minority claims.
Nanothermite is mainstream among truthers. But every bit as crazy.

I suspect that they are more wide-spread than expected as 9/11 Conspiracies were a popular item whenever rather large and controversial news broke, such as when the August 6th PDB became public knowledge.

 

[cjnewson88]

Holy mother of old threads....

 

[Jango]

Holy mother of old threads....

Such exaggeration, man, it's not that old.

 

[Ape of Good Hope]

If you gather together enough old threads you can make a nice set of Emperor's New Clothes.

 

[Redwood]

Originally Posted by Orphia Nay
"Yeah, perhaps it's time to stop pretending there is a movement, which implies unity of some kind, while all we have is a scattered, tattered, splattered and battered gaggle of idle chatter which no longer matters."

From snowcrash at Truth Action:

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtop...?p=48878#48878

It matters, but just because it matters does not = that it is on enough American adult's radars sufficient enough to have any sort of response from the government. What further complicates the issue is the poisoning of the well about 9/11 with theories like no planes, neutron bombs and space-based energy weapons.

You inadvertently showed it doesn't matter: Truth Action is kaput. It's time for the last remaining Truthers to pack it in and get on with their lives and perhaps even do some self-reflection on how they could have wasted so much time on such an obviously bogus issue.

 

[KDLarsen]

Holy mother of old threads....

Oystein did invite Jango to search for old threads if he wanted to discuss other issues than the LC forum deroute

 

[Ape of Good Hope]

Oystein did invite Jango to search for old threads if he wanted to discuss other issues than the LC forum deroute

I have a feeling (and it's only a feeling, mind) that Jango has chosen to interpret this as an invitation to 'overbomb', resurrecting multiple dead threads in a manner that could conceivably be described as 'scattershot'.

Jango also said he was going to start a new thread in which to discuss his concerns, but hasn't yet done so. I suggested he read through paloalto's thread as it seemed to be the closest to what he was interested in talking about.

He's not yet added anything to that thread though. Perhaps he's still working his way through it, as it's quite lengthy.

 

[Oystein]

Oystein did invite Jango to search for old threads if he wanted to discuss other issues than the LC forum deroute

Yes, but didn't mean to have several resurrected.
I think the general topic of "what did the servcices know and do pre-9/11 / who are they covering post-9/11" has been started several times, but never reached a state of maturity like some of the old more technical topics did. Hence good posts are scattered throughout several old thread.

The way that I would do this (being an experienced member here), it this:
1. Either find the best or most recent appropriate thread, or start over in a new thread
2. Link to and/or quote good posts from other threads in that one thread


I think Jango is putting in some serious effort, he is listening to advice, and he is not promoting any claims that are obviously junk. I for one am quite willing learn the arguments and counter-arguments on a field of 9/11-related politics that, in my view, have so far received somewhat less attention here.
A while ago we (the JREF regulars) pretty drove away shure and jimd3100 with a barrage of bordeline-abusive attacks that often lacked substance. I pray that we wise up and meet Jango with respect.

If he makes claims of fact that you think are false, point out what is false and refute it with evidence.
If you think he is missing vital information, provide it.
If you think that he draws conclusions that do not follow from the facts, explain it.
If your opinions on the political implications differ from his, feel free to voice yours, but be sure to differentiate between opinions and claims of fact.

 

[HotRodDeluxe]

You inadvertently showed it doesn't matter: Truth Action is kaput. It's time for the last remaining Truthers to pack it in and get on with their lives and perhaps even do some self-reflection on how they could have wasted so much time on such an obviously bogus issue.

Debunked and defunct...