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Barkley Speaks His Mind

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I've always liked Barkley. Now even more so:

"During a radio interview, the media personality said that he believed successful African-Americans are targeted by "brainwashed" and "uneducated" members of their community. "For some reason, we're brainwashed to think if you're not a thug or an idiot, you're not black enough," he said. "If you go to school, make good grades, speak intelligent and don't break the law, you're not a good black person. ... As a black person, we all go through it when you're successful."
 
Fudbucker said:
I've always liked Barkley. Now even more so:

"During a radio interview, the media personality said that he believed successful African-Americans are targeted by "brainwashed" and "uneducated" members of their community. "For some reason, we're brainwashed to think if you're not a thug or an idiot, you're not black enough," he said. "If you go to school, make good grades, speak intelligent and don't break the law, you're not a good black person. ... As a black person, we all go through it when you're successful."
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Do you have a link to the source and context?
 
While I was living in Florida, I learned the term "coconut" for some of the black students (white on the inside, dark on the outside). Those students were seen quite positively by the teaching staff, and the term was understood humorously by them, but somehow I doubt that it originated that way, or was understood this way by black people.

I'm fairly certain it was used as a slur within the black community much in the same way Barkley criticizes, and appropriated by the teachers.
 
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elgarak said:
While I was living in Florida, I learned the term "coconut" for some of the black students (white on the inside, dark on the outside). Those students were seen quite positively by the teaching staff, and the term was understood humorously by them, but somehow I doubt that it originated that way, or was understood this way by black people.

I'm fairly certain it was used as a slur within the black community much in the same way Barkley criticizes, and appropriated by the teachers.
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Coconut is definitely a slur that is used in South Africa to describe blacks who are more "western". It appears to be a slur used almost exclusively by blacks themselves.
 
Fudbucker said:
I've always liked Barkley. Now even more so:

"During a radio interview, the media personality said that he believed successful African-Americans are targeted by "brainwashed" and "uneducated" members of their community. "For some reason, we're brainwashed to think if you're not a thug or an idiot, you're not black enough," he said. "If you go to school, make good grades, speak intelligent and don't break the law, you're not a good black person. ... As a black person, we all go through it when you're successful."
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We do? Must've missed mine...
 
sir drinks-a-lot said:
By East Asians living on the West Coast, it's Twinkie.
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Interestingly, twinkie has a somewhat different meaning in the wonderful world of film and other media for big people (adults, that is). Which means an East Asian male on the West Coast has four options re: twinkie of which the important three are twinkie, twinkie //not twinkie, twinkie // and twinkie, not twinkie........ The latter two are, of course, not the same.:)
 
Mumbles said:
Same here. In fact, the few people who told me I'm "not really black" were all white.
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Not black myself, but I get to hear a lot of my white far-left acquaintances pontificate about how a particular person isn't "black" enough, because said person is too far removed from the "violent because oppression" meme, or because they insisted that education and a stable family were critically important for their success.

Mind you, when Obama was running/elected, I did see a fairly polarized response from the local black communities, especially from self-appointed leaders and spokesmen. They were all either in the "OMG BEST THING EVAR!!" or "OMG OREO!!!" camps; and not a lot of actual discussion of issues.
 
luchog said:
Not black myself, but I get to hear a lot of my white far-left acquaintances pontificate about how a particular person isn't "black" enough, because said person is too far removed from the "violent because oppression" meme, or because they insisted that education and a stable family were critically important for their success.

Mind you, when Obama was running/elected, I did see a fairly polarized response from the local black communities, especially from self-appointed leaders and spokesmen. They were all either in the "OMG BEST THING EVAR!!" or "OMG OREO!!!" camps; and not a lot of actual discussion of issues.
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I'm a white far-left person with a lot of white far-left acquaintances and have never heard any of them say a particular person isn't "black" enough for any reason.

You sure you don't have your left and right confused?
 
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