Bad Dems Want to Shoot Rummy

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Let me be clear, this is inappropriate. I, for one, do not think that he should be shot.

"CAMPAIGN RAGE: FLORIDA DEMOCRATS PLACE NEWSPAPER AD CALLING FOR RUMSFELD HIT; FUNDRAISING FOR KERRY

Campaign 2004 turns extreme in Florida with the placement of a newspaper ad calling for physical retribution against Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld!

"We should put this S.O.B. up against a wall and say 'This is one of our bad days,' and pull the trigger," the ad reads.
http://drudgereport.com/rc7r.htm
 
Well, it's a Democratic club and there's no comment from Kerry that there's any relationship between them at all. (And I truly doubt they keep in touch with all these little local political party clubs--not that facts should ever inhibit Drudge from exploiting the anti-Kerry innuendo that he loves so much! :rolleyes: ).
 
subgenius said:

"We should put this S.O.B. up against a wall and say 'This is one of our bad days,' and pull the trigger," the ad reads.
http://drudgereport.com/rc7r.htm
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"Sadly, the Democrats were unable to carry out their threat, because they realized they had outlawed all their guns.":p

Come on, Sub. You know better than to place any value in things you read in Drudge Report.
 
I find the ad troubling and think it is in poor taste. I think Kerry should disavow it. I know that he can't respond to every moronic statement made by the lunatic fringe but I think this case is appropriate.
 
There's no mention of the price on offer for the "hit". I suggest $1 million and basing a Reality TV show on it for funding. Fox would be up for it.
 
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Tricky said:
Come on, Sub. You know better than to place any value in things you read in Drudge Report.
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Isn't this an ad hominem argument? The editor at the Gabber admited that the ad ran. So it's not like Drudge made this up. Or am I missing somethin here? Which I should point out wouldn't be the first time. :D
 
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RandFan said:
Isn't this an ad hominem argument? The editor at the Gabber admited that the ad ran. So it's not like Drudge made this up. Or am I missing somethin here? Which I should point out wouldn't be the first time. :D
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Correction: The Drudge article <u>says</u> that the editor of the Gabber admitted that the ad ran.

This wouldn't be the first time Drudge has totally fabricated a story to make the Democratic Party look bad.

A while back Drudge ran a story saying that Kerry was boofing an intern, complete with a supposed Wesley Clark quote, "Kerry will implode over an intern issue." The article--Drudge's article--claimed that three people heard him make the comment, the article quoted unnamed "top campaign officials," and guess what? The whole thing was BS.
 
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RandFan said:
Isn't this an ad hominem argument? The editor at the Gabber admited that the ad ran. So it's not like Drudge made this up. Or am I missing somethin here?
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Tricky has a habit of dismissing any facts that aren't compatible with his biases.
 
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Cleon said:


Correction: The Drudge article <u>says</u> that the editor of the Gabber admitted that the ad ran.

This wouldn't be the first time Drudge has totally fabricated a story to make the Democratic Party look bad.

A while back Drudge ran a story saying that Kerry was boofing an intern, complete with a supposed Wesley Clark quote, "Kerry will implode over an intern issue." The article--Drudge's article--claimed that three people heard him make the comment, the article quoted unnamed "top campaign officials," and guess what? The whole thing was BS.
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Well, I have to go to an appointment. Why not one of us call the editor of the Gabber, it shouldn't be too hard. If no one will then I will do it when I get back.

It seems that dismissing the story out of hand when the info is varifiable is short sighted.
 
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Tricky said:

"Sadly, the Democrats were unable to carry out their threat, because they realized they had outlawed all their guns.":p

Come on, Sub. You know better than to place any value in things you read in Drudge Report.
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I just want to re-iterate that I, for one, do not think he should be shot.
 
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subgenius said:
I just want to re-iterate that I, for one, do not think he should be shot.
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And I would like to point out that Kerry should not be shot. For that matter I don't think any Democrats, regardless of their iditotic positions, should have the fingernails ripped out with pliars, their eyes poked out with hote irons and then roasted over hot coals. No, I think that would be inapropriate. ;)
 
This part is where Drudge's lying could come in:
McCall said her club is in direct contact with John Kerry campaign.

"We're all working together."
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He quotes her saying, "We're all working together"...Who is "we"? What question was she responding to? There's no indication she said anything about the Kerry campaign being in direct contact with them about this ad, which is totally Drudge's implication here.

Drudge added the part saying, "her club is in direct contact with John Kerry campaign." Then gives as support a totally ambiguous remark.

Vintage. Drudge.
 
This wasn't the national democratic party at work. So I guess the question is, so what?
 
RandFan said:
Isn't this an ad hominem argument? The editor at the Gabber admited that the ad ran. So it's not like Drudge made this up. Or am I missing somethin here? Which I should point out wouldn't be the first time. :D
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I admit, it is sort of an ad hom, but it is an ad hom based on previous experience (as Cleon pointed out). It is equivalent to saying, "Don't trust the supermarket tabloids". This is not to say that they aren't occasionally right (they are) but that they have a poor reputation for fact-checking.

I feel that the report probably is true, but my feeling is "so what?" What kind of paper is "The Gabber" anyway? What's its circulation? Is it one of those eight-page advertising rags? If so, it's probably so desperate for money, it will take any ad. So I disagree with RandFan that Kerry should disavow it. That would only legitimize it. No serious observer of the political scene would give it a second's thought, and those who would have probably decided who they're going to vote for already.

'Course there's always the possibility it was planted by a Kerry hater to make him look bad.
Tony said:
Tricky has a habit of dismissing any facts that aren't compatible with his biases.
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Now that's better example of an ad hominem. :D
 
CapelDodger said:
I just want to re-iterate that I, for one, think he should be shot for money and entertainment. Lets leave politics out of this.
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If it is for entertainment, could he be tortured just a little first?;)
 
It's just some loonies from a soapbox club in Gulfport a jerkwater little town which has a population of about 14. I don't think Kerry should say anything , that's what druge is hoping, because if he does he not only elevates the "Clubs" credibility but also entwines him with the ad. Let the DNC or a spokesperson for Kerry do the denial.

Also Isn't against the law to threaten a public official? ( or even a regular person in public )?
 
TillEulenspiegel said:
Also Isn't against the law to threaten a public official? ( or even a regular person in public )?
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Yeah, but just saying "they ought to be shot" is not a threat. If it were, then a whole lot of Repubs would have gone to jail during the Clinton administration. :p
 
Tricky said:

Yeah, but just saying "they ought to be shot" is not a threat. If it were, then a whole lot of Repubs would have gone to jail during the Clinton administration. :p
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Indeed, it is my recollection that ol' Jesse Helms made a statement not unlike this one regarding a potential Clinton visit to North Carolina...I doube the RNC ever apologized or Jesse, for that matter (though I may be wrong).
 
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