I hope this isn’t offensive to him, but sometimes I think psion10 is just taking the piss and there is not a massive difference in his and your views (and mine too for that matter).
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I hope this isn’t offensive to him, but sometimes I think psion10 is just taking the piss and there is not a massive difference in his and your views (and mine too for that matter).
arthwollipot
Limerick Purist Pronouns: He/Him
It wouldn't be the first time I was trolled so hard and I took it way too seriously. It was a troll who first bestowed on me the moniker "Wolli".
The Premiers, with one exception, really stepped up when Morrison decided to fob off some Commonwealth duties to them.
Yeah, he would have just been known for hanging around Parliament House.
psionl0
Skeptical about skeptics
I am guessing that you would be less wholeheartedly in agreement with my view that Sir Robert Menzies made a pretty good peace time PM. The Libs went downhill after he resigned and lurched to the right after the Hawke Labor government took the middle ground that the Menzies government used to occupy.
psionl0
Skeptical about skeptics
Wasn't Dutton the one who wanted the unemployed to submit umpteen job applications per day to receive unemployment benefits? Employer groups had to say "**** off! We don't want to wade through thousands of job applications from people who would be totally unsuited for the job!"
I'm pretty sure that if Dutton ever becomes PM, he will copy the American system and cut the unemployed off after a few months.
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arthwollipot
Limerick Purist Pronouns: He/Him
Why would you guess that? Menzies was a little before my time, but my understanding is that he was a pretty good PM.
He was a person of his time, but unfortunately we needed someone ahead of his time. He led Australia through the great sleepwalk of the 1950s and 1960s, where we failed to capitalise on our many benefits as a non-war ravaged nation. He also left no decent successor. I don’t rate him highly.
novaphile
Quester of Doglets
Back in the day, when I was working for Defence, there was a discussion paper circulating, that made the claim that Japan had considered invading Australia, but their local assets had stated that every man, woman and child had access to weapons and would disappear into 'the bush' and skirmish/harrass every Japanese soldier until there were no soldiers left.
I can only assume that they were not talking about city people, but I can certainly imagine a lot of Australians refusing to be 'ruled' or occupied by a foreign power.
(I believe that firearm ownership was much less common in the cities, but more or less standard outside of the cities.)
psionl0
Skeptical about skeptics
I disagree. The pro big business policies of governments since Menzies' time have benefited mainly big business to the detriment of ordinary Australians.
a_unique_person
Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning
He was a legend with the Conservatives and their domination of the media. John Howard would be his love child.
It’s the eyebrows.
psionl0
Skeptical about skeptics
John Howard is no Robert Menzies.
Gulliver Foyle
Philosopher
True, having his stopped clock moment being right about Hitler doesn't qualify Churchill for greatness.
In fact, given that the two men had so many views in common it's kind of surprising how much Churchill hated Hitler.
arthwollipot
Limerick Purist Pronouns: He/Him
My probably-poorly-informed understanding is that Churchill was a decent wartime leader, but as soon as the war ended he was terrible.
Gulliver Foyle
Philosopher
He was a very good leader for morale, knew enough about conducting war* not to be overly interfering and got lucky in that the national coalition was chock full of good ministers. He managed to keep his worst traits somewhat in check for five years (though not completely so, see the Calcutta famine).
*The embarrasment of Gallipoli probably taught him to keep his nose out, though blame for that has to be shared with the Admirals.
I’m much more interested in discussing Scumo’s biography, Plans for your Good.
https://www.harpercollins.com.au/9781400340286/plans-for-your-good/
I doubt I will buy it, but from the summaries it supports artwollipot’s often stated opinion that Morrison’s decisions were strongly guided by his pentecostinal religious beiefs. Including decisions about Covid, which he royally stuffed up.
https://www.harpercollins.com.au/9781400340286/plans-for-your-good/
I doubt I will buy it, but from the summaries it supports artwollipot’s often stated opinion that Morrison’s decisions were strongly guided by his pentecostinal religious beiefs. Including decisions about Covid, which he royally stuffed up.
psionl0
Skeptical about skeptics
Why? Despite the oft repeated claims that he was trying to bring on a theocracy or apocalypse, he proved to be exactly what he appeared to be - an accidental PM who had no idea how to handle a crisis. He appeared to be more interested in sucking up to the rich than an armageddon.
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arthwollipot
Limerick Purist Pronouns: He/Him
Still misunderstanding what I was saying about him, I see.
psionl0
Skeptical about skeptics
Your warnings about how dangerous he was never came to fruition.