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In another thread, which has turned into a discussion of nicknames for genitalia (but what else is new around here?
), I tried to start my own derail into a discussion of Audrey Santos.
LostAngeles raised the possibility that the "marks" (similar to stigmata) this young girl exhibits are a consequence of Munchausen by proxy. I wonder if it is this or more deliberate victimization to raise cash or even an odd coincidence of bedsores/bruising.
For those unfamiliar with her case, selected quotes (bolding mine) from her official web site :
The change in Little Audrey’s life began on a hot summer day, August 9, 1987, when Audrey was three years old. It was on this day that Audrey fell into the family swimming pool, even though she had been afraid of water.
Audrey recovered but was rushed to the hospital where she was overmedicated. The doctor prescribed too much Phenobarbital, and Audrey lapsed into a coma.
She was out of the coma in three weeks. She remains in a state called Akinetic Mutism — non-moving, non-speaking.
The "professionals" insisted that Audrey be placed in an institution. Audrey’s mother Linda, felt that she would receive better care being home with her family. So in November four months following the accident, Audrey was brought home.
We believe that signs and wonders are manifesting with Audrey, around her and about her. Audrey seems to manifest unexplainable (medically) marks on her body that resemble the wounds of Christ.
The religious images that exude oil and blood are unexplainable to us. The Bishop’s commission has stated clearly they have found no trickery.
The healings that take place here are not completely investigated by the Bishop’s Commission but they are open to a full study in order to validate any claims.
Audrey brings us to the Eucharist. There are four consecrated hosts that have exhibited human blood
Having resigned herself to God’s will prior to the age of seven (the age of reason), it is unlikely that Audrey has ever sinned. Father Emmanuel Charles McCarthy, a Massachusetts based Melkite Catholic priest whose ministry centers around justice and peace, believes that the little girl is redemptively connected with the sins of nuclear destruction.
Father Renê Laurentin, a member of the Council of Doctrine and Faith and world-renowned theologian, concluded a four year personal investigation into the life of Audrey Santo. The esteemed Catholic scholar expects to report his favorable findings to the council. He visited Little Audrey in July 1993 and was deeply moved by being in her presence and stated "This is Holy Ground." Little Audrey is a soul truly blessed and chosen by God.
Bishop Daniel Reilly of Worcester, Massachusetts has set up a commission of psychologists, doctors and a theologian to study the events at Little Audrey’s. The first phase of the investigation is over — we are soon to begin the second phase.
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A summary report from the Church can be found
here . It raises the possibility of chicanery and desire for fame but pretty much dismisses these explanations. Nonetheless, the tone is reserved as far as accepting the miraculous nature of the case.
Finally, an article by Joe Nickell which provides a skeptical analysis of the weeping statues etc but only mentions the troubling stigmata in passing.
I guess there are no answers as we do not have the data but somehow during the Schiavo case, my mind kept returning to this little girl so I thought I'd ask my fellow forumites for their thoughts....
LostAngeles raised the possibility that the "marks" (similar to stigmata) this young girl exhibits are a consequence of Munchausen by proxy. I wonder if it is this or more deliberate victimization to raise cash or even an odd coincidence of bedsores/bruising.
For those unfamiliar with her case, selected quotes (bolding mine) from her official web site :
The change in Little Audrey’s life began on a hot summer day, August 9, 1987, when Audrey was three years old. It was on this day that Audrey fell into the family swimming pool, even though she had been afraid of water.
Audrey recovered but was rushed to the hospital where she was overmedicated. The doctor prescribed too much Phenobarbital, and Audrey lapsed into a coma.
She was out of the coma in three weeks. She remains in a state called Akinetic Mutism — non-moving, non-speaking.
The "professionals" insisted that Audrey be placed in an institution. Audrey’s mother Linda, felt that she would receive better care being home with her family. So in November four months following the accident, Audrey was brought home.
We believe that signs and wonders are manifesting with Audrey, around her and about her. Audrey seems to manifest unexplainable (medically) marks on her body that resemble the wounds of Christ.
The religious images that exude oil and blood are unexplainable to us. The Bishop’s commission has stated clearly they have found no trickery.
The healings that take place here are not completely investigated by the Bishop’s Commission but they are open to a full study in order to validate any claims.
Audrey brings us to the Eucharist. There are four consecrated hosts that have exhibited human blood
Having resigned herself to God’s will prior to the age of seven (the age of reason), it is unlikely that Audrey has ever sinned. Father Emmanuel Charles McCarthy, a Massachusetts based Melkite Catholic priest whose ministry centers around justice and peace, believes that the little girl is redemptively connected with the sins of nuclear destruction.
Father Renê Laurentin, a member of the Council of Doctrine and Faith and world-renowned theologian, concluded a four year personal investigation into the life of Audrey Santo. The esteemed Catholic scholar expects to report his favorable findings to the council. He visited Little Audrey in July 1993 and was deeply moved by being in her presence and stated "This is Holy Ground." Little Audrey is a soul truly blessed and chosen by God.
Bishop Daniel Reilly of Worcester, Massachusetts has set up a commission of psychologists, doctors and a theologian to study the events at Little Audrey’s. The first phase of the investigation is over — we are soon to begin the second phase.
When writing for information about oil (oil is free) or videos, newsletter or book, please send a self-addressed stamped envelope to
Me again: these other items are available at a cost plus donations are solicited.
A summary report from the Church can be found
here . It raises the possibility of chicanery and desire for fame but pretty much dismisses these explanations. Nonetheless, the tone is reserved as far as accepting the miraculous nature of the case.
Finally, an article by Joe Nickell which provides a skeptical analysis of the weeping statues etc but only mentions the troubling stigmata in passing.
I guess there are no answers as we do not have the data but somehow during the Schiavo case, my mind kept returning to this little girl so I thought I'd ask my fellow forumites for their thoughts....