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Application Proposal - Free Energy Motor

Schnure

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I've designed a free energy machine, and constructed some of the parts for the device in my workshop. The power source for the motor is a quadrupole magnet, which are worth over $10k per magnet. They are not sold to the general public and are only used in classified and restricted nuclear laboratories like Los Alamos, where the atomic bomb was developed.

The machine works because there is am ambient source of radiant energy already in magnets. In fact it is called the Tesla, and was named after Nickola Tesla in the 1960's. It can be thought of as newton-seconds per coulumb meter or as newton's per ampere-meter.

Einstein won the nobel prize for his free energy machine, where he found a way to convert electro magnetic radiation directly to energy. It was called the photoelectric effect, and his work with nuclear energy and the atomic bomb (e=mc^2), is how they developed another ambiant source of radiation from plutonium, which powers all of our nuclear plants.

My machine works very simply with these theories in mind. My quadrupole magnet, is just a small steel magnet that effectively has 4 poles. It is created by engineering many small magnets inside of the circular ring, so their poles switch about half way around the circle. When engineered correctly in my lab this actually causes the magnet to behave as if it has 4 poles and isn't made of 2 magnets.

What happens with this magnet is really cool. I just hook it up to a 1.5 volt wind generator, and attatch another magnet to a low voltage 0.3 volt motor. And when the motor spins the ordinary magnet, the tesla force spins the quadrupole. If it were not a quadrupole the work would not be coverted to a rotation of the generator. But because it does, and because the motor operates at such a low voltage, the whole machine powers itself and generates extra power.

I have a video on youtube of my quadrupole magnet, so you can see how the device works. Just watch here, and ask any questions on the forum. We need to make the agreement clear before I submit the device to the skeptical community: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRND41DM2TI
 
Yeah, but I'm not going to get anywhere with this in the scientific community since all of the resaerch with quadrupole magnets is classified. People already know about this effect but it still doesn't exist. It is just like saying zero point, perpetual motion, overunity, or free energy. And I could really use the million dollars. Or at least the JREF's stamp of aproval on the device. I want to build a large scale real world generator, and don't have any funding.
 
Einstein won the nobel prize for his free energy machine, where he found a way to convert electro magnetic radiation directly to energy. It was called the photoelectric effect, and his work with nuclear energy and the atomic bomb (e=mc^2), is how they developed another ambiant source of radiation from plutonium, which powers all of our nuclear plants.
This should be obvious, but the photoelectric effect is not a free energy machine. Changing light into electrical current is not free energy any more than jumping from the top of a cliff is a free energy machine because you convert potential energy to kinetic energy. If you want a simpler free energy machine I'll give you one: stand under the sun and you will get hot, your energy will increase without your doing anything!

Anyway, Einstein did not discover the photoelectric effect, he explained it. That a light source could start an electric circuit was not surprising at all in the context of classical electromagnetism. The surprising thing about the photoelectric effect is that the threshold was not set by the intensity of the incident light, but by its wavelength. Read the Wikipedia article (particularly the history section).
 
If you have a working model, then that's half the battle. I assume that you get more energy out of the spinning quadrapole than you put into the motor that spins the ordinary magnet? That can be tested fairly easily, so the next step is to figure out what sort of instruments are normally used in this sort of testing.
 
Yes. The device is working now, and I am measuring the power it generates with a multimeter.
 
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Hi, Schnure. I have a couple of questions. Without revealing any manufacturing secrets, why is your quadropole magnet superior to any four quality magnets joined to form a quadropole?

And are you going to submit an application for the $1 million? I assume that you've reviewed the relevant pages.

Also, be sure to stay away from this guy. :D
 
Some things bug me about this thread.

First, it is clear that Schnure is evading the issue of applying for the challenge. This is because he does not plan to apply.

Second, I find it so interesting that Sinsanity2006 stopped posting in the forum on December 27th. Suddenly, today, a new guy pops up spouting the same free energy gobbledygook. I'm calling your bluff, Schnure. You are Sinsanity.
 
Darn. It was, for a short time, the most coherent free energy claim I'd seen on here.
 
Good job, Lisa.

Wouldn't have been that hard for her to figure out considering the video he linked to was uploaded by coreywhite. LOL.

ETA I need to learn to type faster than 10 wpm, LOL.
 
Corey White came into the forum and made libelous statements against Mr. Randi. He left for a while, then came back and caused more trouble. Got banned. Came back with a sockpuppet named Erika. Got banned again.

Had I actually looked at the youtube video, he would have been banned earlier. This all came about through a chat room conversation with Jeff Wagg.

ETA: He didn't actually libel Mr. Randi here...he made his statements in other forums.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1295101#post1295101
 
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Yes. The device is working now, and I am measuring the power it generates with a multimeter.

Problem numero uno.

Typical multimeters are designed under the assumption that they will be used to measure either nice, clean, DC voltages and currents or nice, clean, 60Hz AC (in the USA.)

If you feed a multimeter anything but what it is designed for, you will get incorrect readings.

Problem number two is that multimeters don't have the ability to measure power. You would need a pair to measure power - one for current and one for voltage - then multiply for power. But, youm ust remember the limitations given above. If your "free energy" generator delivers anything but pure DC (possible) or clean 60Hz AC (unlikely) then your voltage and current readings will be wrong.

Problem number three is that with the power readings, you still won't have the key thing you need, which is the amount of energy produced. To get that, you must make periodic measurements of the power then sum those together to get the total energy produced.

Problem number four is that you must measure the energy on the input side and the output side simultaneously, and both for the full length of the test.

Schnure (going by posts in another thread) doesn't know the difference between enrgy, power, voltage, and current. Nor does he appear to know that the energy you get out of a magnet (in a generator, for example) comes from the mechanical energy used to move the coils through the magnetic field (or to move the magnets through the coils.)

I could really use a free energy device to cut down my power bills, but I doubt any of these refugees from a sixth grade science class are going to come up with one.
 
"I could really use a free energy device... "

Try putting solar cells on your roof. While the cells are not free (unless you steal them), the power will be.
 

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