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Any Green Party supporters here?

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Cynthia McKinney was the person nominated for president by the Green Party in 2008. This person:

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:jaw-dropp :covereyes
 
As a Jewish Green Party member, and someone who voted for her for Congress, I ripped her a new one on that thread.
 
She's been riding the crazy train for years; she was an early and vocal 9-11 Troofer. Of course, that appears to be dogma among the Greens as their 2012 and 2016 presidential candidate, Jill Stein, also endorsed 9-11 Denial:

It is well known that the 9/11 Commission produced a report containing so many omissions and distortions that Harper's Magazine described it as "whitewash as public service"—a document that "defrauds the nation." The co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission wrote a book just two years after the final commission report, saying, "We were set up to fail." The 9/11 Commission was not given enough money, time, or access to relevant classified information.
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Brainster said:
She's been riding the crazy train for years; she was an early and vocal 9-11 Troofer. Of course, that appears to be dogma among the Greens as their 2012 and 2016 presidential candidate, Jill Stein, also endorsed 9-11 Denial:
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She's completely unhinged. After hurricane Katrina, she claimed that 5,000 people were executed by the government
 
When living in Seattle and San Francisco, they were the only alternative to the Dems, so I was a big supporter. Now I live in Colorado, the Libertarians are the only alternative to the GOP in my district.
 
I find it very sad the the USA Green Party has supported so much weird (both people and certain positions), over the years. Being to the left of liberal I very much hoped for something more reflecting of my poetical views without the strange and/or despicable conspiracy beliefs, etc. But you don't always get what you want, so I've never voted Green even as a protest. And I will not forgive them for fielding Ralph Nader in 2000, which may have ensured Bush's victory.
 
And Jill Stein apparently was flirting with Putin . God, the Green Party needs to start picking better candidates.
They suffer from what most of the minor parties suffer from: an inability to select anybody who appeals to people beyond the hard core base.
 
portlandatheist said:
She's completely unhinged. After hurricane Katrina, she claimed that 5,000 people were executed by the government
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Obviously those were all the looters Chris Kyle killed. Thing is, even in conspiracy-land, killing a bunch of Louisiana prisoners doesn't wash. The prison system there collects those guys like baseball cards. A better conspiracy theory would be that these were a mix of welfare recipients and illegal aliens.
 
I'm probably further left than they are, and I wish we could just forget about them. I'm not a fan of cringe.
 
dudalb said:
And Jill Stein apparently was flirting with Putin . God, the Green Party needs to start picking better candidates.
They suffer from what most of the minor parties suffer from: an inability to select anybody who appeals to people beyond the hard core base.
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It's a feature, not a bug.
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It's not the Green Party candidates that is the primary problem. It's the fact the Green party is a bunch of commies that ruins any chances they might have.

If instead of attaching themselves to a bunch of commies, they developed a conservative/progressive platform, very likely they could indeed gain some traction. Probably not enough to win a presidential election, but enough to force a main party to adopt the portions of their platform dealing with the environment seriously.
 
dudalb said:
And Jill Stein apparently was flirting with Putin . God, the Green Party needs to start picking better candidates.
They suffer from what most of the minor parties suffer from: an inability to select anybody who appeals to people beyond the hard core base.
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They pick the best they have.

And look at the libertarian party, they went with Johnson despite his support for the DMV. That lets them appeal to a much broader group than their hard core base that is against drivers licenses.
 
Red Baron Farms said:
It's not the Green Party candidates that is the primary problem. It's the fact the Green party is a bunch of commies that ruins any chances they might have.

If instead of attaching themselves to a bunch of commies, they developed a conservative/progressive platform, very likely they could indeed gain some traction. Probably not enough to win a presidential election, but enough to force a main party to adopt the portions of their platform dealing with the environment seriously.
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A "conservative/progressive platform," makes about as much sense as "Dry Water".
 
dudalb said:
A "conservative/progressive platform," makes about as much sense as "Dry Water".
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Maybe to you, but for example some of the most conservative social organizations like the Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, 4H, ETC... were extremely active in conservationist environmental activities. Once upon a time it really was part of the Republican party to be conservationists to nature, conservative socially and selectively progressive on some issues like slavery, and economics.

You see it as an oxymoron that is mutualistically incompatible, I see it as common sense and your false dichotomy as ignorant and stupid.

It's also a great opportunity for a third party to pick up votes, since the current republican party is so corrupt and has rejected its roots. Rather than abolitionists, it has become infested with corrupt racists, rather than the conservationist party it has rejected all environmentalism, rather than supporting economic activity for all citizens, it has supported restrictive plutocracy that has become "too big to fail".

For this reason there is a wide open niche of people still adamantly against the commies at the Green party and the socialists at the Democrat party, but yet still representing both the environment and the progress of economic activity.

Best historical example of this style of government in action would be Teddy Roosevelt.
 
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Red Baron Farms said:
and the socialists at the Democrat party
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Yes, it sounds like you have a firm grasp on political ideologies and the composition of the populace.

And I'm not sure why you are lumping conservationism with environmentalism. The two are different and mutually opposed.
 
Tsukasa Buddha said:
Yes, it sounds like you have a firm grasp on political ideologies and the composition of the populace.

And I'm not sure why you are lumping conservationism with environmentalism. The two are different and mutually opposed.
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"The conservation movement, also known as nature conservation, is a political, environmental and a social movement that seeks to protect natural resources including animal and plant species as well as their habitat for the future.

The early conservation movement included fisheries and wildlife management, water, soil conservation and sustainable forestry. The contemporary conservation movement has broadened from the early movement's emphasis on use of sustainable yield of natural resources and preservation of wilderness areas to include preservation of biodiversity. Some say the conservation movement is part of the broader and more far-reaching environmental movement, while others argue that they differ both in ideology and practice."

I suppose you can guess which of the two sides I fall? I am a conservative conservationist, I view environmentalism from the viewpoint to preserve natural resources expressly for their continued sustainable use by humans. I definitely don't view natural as some inherent abstract virtue.
 
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