Another homeopathy report

[MRC_Hans]

Over at Hpathy, I have been asked my opinion on this study:

http://www.web-outpatients.com/Articles.asp?Article_Id=30
http://www.aerztezeitung.de/docs/2004/01/15/006a1404.asp?cat=/medizin/homoeopathie

This is about other experiments, too, but is very positive:
http://www.vhan.nl/documents/ScientificReportECHNov04.pdf

I have the original article about Prof. Nieber's experiment (in German) so if anybody wants to read it, I can mail it to you. I have a hunch it has been discussed before, somewhere.

Thoughts, comments?

Hans

 

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

Obvious questions relate to the nature of the controls- was it remedy in alcohol vs saline control, for instance?

Edited for typo

 

[MRC_Hans]

It appears that the same basic belladonna solution was used in the controls, and with the same dilutions. Only, the controls were "stirred, not shaken".

Hans

 

[MRC_Hans]

Oh, and btw, the claim in the article linked above that "Prof. Nieber set out to disprove homeopathy" is incorrect (nice euphemism for bald-faced lie); in the abstract of the original article, Prof. Nieber states that homeopathy has been shown clinically to work, and that the purpose of the test is to prove that the remedies have effect. So, she is a proponent, not a converted skeptic, like they would like us to believe.

Hans

 

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

In the .pdf link one of Ennis's papers is cited as factual evidence, which rather undermines the quality.

 

[Yaotl]

What is D90?

 

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

What is D90?

Barring correction from geni, who is disturbingly au fait with the terminology, D90 = 1 in 10⁹⁰

 

[Capsid]

Well I would like to see a dose response effect to demonstrate that reducing potencies (less dilution) correlates with a reduction in ileum contraction; this does not have to be linear. Was such an effect shown in this study?

The Ennis paper did not show a dose response effect either and the authors could not explain this.