And the religious censorship continues...

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Only a week after they cancelled the controversial drama "The Book of Daniel" after only three episodes, NBC-TV has backed down again to conservative pressure groups. The network, which had recently announced that the April 13th episode of "Will & Grace" would feature Britney Spears as "a conservative Christian hosting a cooking show called 'Cruci-fixins'," has now announced that the segment airing the day before Good Friday, will be shown without that reference included.

According to a Newsmax story, opposition from the American Family Association and other Christian fundamentalist pressure groups and affiliate stations, pushed the network to edit the offending segment out of the episode.

In addition, NBC is reportedly now claiming their description of the episode was "erroneous." A memo to affiliates declared that "the information was mistakenly included in a press release describing an upcoming episode of ‘Will & Grace’ which, in fact, has yet to be written. The reference to ‘Cruci-fixins’ will not be in the show."
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Dang, I love living in Denmark. I wonder if there will be an influx of American citizens wanting to relocate to a country with real freedom of speech...?
 
CFLarsen said:
Dang, I love living in Denmark. I wonder if there will be an influx of American citizens wanting to relocate to a country with real freedom of speech...?
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Please explain this quote from this story:
The Danish government says it does not control what is in the country's newspapers and that courts will determine whether the newspaper that originally published the cartoons is guilty of blasphemy.
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Blasphemy is a crime in Denmark?
 
WildCat said:
Please explain this quote from this story:

Blasphemy is a crime in Denmark?
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It is in many EU countries (although see my comment below) - ridiculous in this day and age but when you have state religions this sort of thing lingers on for a long time.

Down with antidisestablishmentarianism I say!

ETA: The last success prosecution in the UK was against Gay Times for priniting a poem that suggested Christ was gay: http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/july/11/newsid_2499000/2499721.stm

Even though the law remains on the books it is unlikely that any successful prosecution could be brought using it today because of the consideration UK courts now have to give to the European Convention on Human Rights. when making their decisions. But as far as I am aware that has not been established in a court decision yet.

Certainly in the UK the cartoons could not be prosecuted under the Blasphemy act since the Blasphemy act only applies to the doctrines of the Church of England.
 
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WildCat said:
Blasphemy is a crime in Denmark?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_cartoons

"Section 140 of the Danish Penal Code prohibits blasphemy. However, this law has not been used since 1938. [13] Section 266b of the Danish Penal Code prohibits expressions that threaten, deride or degrade on the grounds of race, colour, national or ethnic origin, belief or sexual orientation. It has never, however, been used to prohibit statements offensive to religion. The Danish public prosecutor determined that the Muhammad cartoons were not blasphemy in Danish law.[6]."

Cheers.
 
Darat said:
It is in many EU countries - ridiculous in this day and age but when you have state religions this sort of thing lingers on for a long time.

Down with antidisestablishmentarianism I say!
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Yes, that is just crazy. Are people actually commonly charged w/ blasphemy, or is it reserved for politically charged cases like this one?

eta: I see Kevin has already posted on this, I hope that's the case and another prosecutor doesn't decide that this will enhance his career.
 
Let's not get off topic -- please stay with deliberately conflating private actions by business in response to consumers with government censorship so that we can continue to complain about the US, please.
 
CFLarsen said:
Dang, I love living in Denmark. I wonder if there will be an influx of American citizens wanting to relocate to a country with real freedom of speech...?
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Could you define "real" freedom of speech? Does it include the right for groups of citizens to express their concern over the actions of private corporations? Does it include the right of private corporations to acknowledge these concerns?
 
Donks said:
Could you define "real" freedom of speech? Does it include the right for groups of citizens to express their concern over the actions of private corporations? Does it include the right of private corporations to acknowledge these concerns?
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"real" freedom of speech of doesn't exist. Or at least I've never heard of any nation that actually has it - just some get closer to the ideal then others.
 
Darat said:
"real" freedom of speech of doesn't exist. Or at least I've never heard of any nation that actually has it - just some get closer to the ideal then others.
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Would the rights I mentioned be part of the ideal? Which nations have them?
 
WildCat said:
Are people actually commonly charged w/ blasphemy, or is it reserved for politically charged cases like this one?
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It is very rarely used in Denmark. We are talking cases that are waaaaaaaay out there.
 
Donks said:
Could you define "real" freedom of speech? Does it include the right for groups of citizens to express their concern over the actions of private corporations? Does it include the right of private corporations to acknowledge these concerns?
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I was making a point by being slightly sarcastic.

I'm not complaining about their rights to express their concern over the actions of private corporations. I am complaining that a private company would so easily succumb to a religious group of people with a grievance that was such a small issue.

"Cruci-fixins" is now out of bounds? What's next?
 
Darat said:
"real" freedom of speech of doesn't exist. Or at least I've never heard of any nation that actually has it - just some get closer to the ideal then others.
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...depending on the current political and religious climate in the nations.
 
NoZed Avenger said:
Let's not get off topic -- please stay with deliberately conflating private actions by business in response to consumers with government censorship so that we can continue to complain about the US, please.
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You do not have the right to censor what issues I bring up.

Do you think censorship should be differentiated depending on who is doing it to whom? Really?
 
Britney Spears as a conservative Christian?

"According to a Newsmax story"?

Thank you for filling my humor quotient for the day in one post. Anything from here on is gravy.
 
CFLarsen said:
You do not have the right to censor what issues I bring up.

Do you think censorship should be differentiated depending on who is doing it to whom? Really?
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Sure it should.

Self-censorship to please religious nuts is bad, but government censorship to please religious nuts is worse.
 
CFLarsen said:
Dang, I love living in Denmark. I wonder if there will be an influx of American citizens wanting to relocate to a country with real freedom of speech...?
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I don't see why it's offensive. Christians use bad puns all the time to promote their religion.

For instance:
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