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Aliens, Arecibo, and crop circles

To: Paul

Thanks for the tip about crop circles.

My cats have been leaving messages to these aliens for years in their litter boxes, but with no response.

The first I do when I get home will be to tell them that are using the wrong approach and what they really need is an interstellar ham radio.

Thanks again!

;)
 
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Has anyone else read the rumour that the movie company is paying people to make crop circles now just before the movie is out? :)
 
I'd be surprised if the studio isn't paying for circles.

I've also suggested many times that the farmers are getting kickbacks from local hotels, pub owners, merchants, and taxi drivers. Everybody's happy.

~~ Paul
 
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Bjorn said:
Has anyone else read the rumour that the movie company is paying people to make crop circles now just before the movie is out? :)
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I was under the impression that it wasn't a rumor at all but an announced part of their publicity campaign.

Incidently, since mere mortal humans can't recreate crop circles, I find it utterly amazing that aliens would oblige the movie company by creating the circles for them.

Upchurch
 
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos said:
Crop circles are a response to our tranmissions to outer space:

http://amo.net/Contact/
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This of course is completely logical. These pesky little greys (or blues or greens or whatever) pop on over from Alpha Centauri and talk to us with wheat.

So I guess on Pioneer 10, 11 and Voyager 1 and 2 that, instead of a record or information about Earth, we should have stuck on a couple of loaves of Wonder Bread.

Sure. I believe it.
 
From the site:

What humans currently can't demostrate the ability to do are the following:
#1: Modify the chemical/molecular structure of the crops like those consistent with what we'll call "authentic crop formation phenomena".

Hogwash, such changes have never been witnessed.

#2: Leave no human evidence in the crop; IE: not breaking it and leaving footsteps, paths, etc.

Complete rubbish, it is really easy to get into the fields without leaving marks if one is careful.

#3: Create massive and complex crop circles/formations in seconds or minutes as has been evidenced by eyewitness accounts and video recordings.

Seconds? Where has there been a crop circle formed in seconds? I would love to see this proven.
 
anduin said:
From the site:
#3: Create massive and complex crop circles/formations in seconds or minutes as has been evidenced by eyewitness accounts and video recordings.

Seconds? Where has there been a crop circle formed in seconds? I would love to see this proven.
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Couldn't be bothered to check myself - does the site show the videos? No? :(

One wonders why ... ;)
 
anduin said:
Seconds? Where has there been a crop circle formed in seconds? I would love to see this proven.
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Haven't you heard of the film of Oliver's Castle? It was filmed happening.

Of course, after a couple of years, someone discovered the cameraman's day job - he is co-owner of a video special effects studio.
 
http://www.historychannel.com/ontv/index.html

History's Mysteries: Crop Circle Controversy

Did anyone see this on the History Channel? I caught most of it late last night and was blown away by the flavor of the show. For those of you that missed it, they talked about the mystery of the circles and then about the hoax explanation and finished with the idea that a % of these crop circles just can't be explained. For Example:

"In the 1980s, a series of strange formations started showing up in the farms of southern England. "Crop circles"--uniformly flattened patterns in fields---attracted the attention of the Queen, Prince Charles, Margaret Thatcher, and even Led Zeppelin! Paranormalists speculated that they were evidence of UFO landings or occult activity. Then, in 1991, two men came forward to say it was all a hoax, that they had invented crop circles back in the `70s. One even demonstrated his technique for TV cameras.

But, as the CROP CIRCLE CONTROVERSY shows, this revelation did not end the speculation. For one, there are documented incidents of the circles showing up in fields all over the world--some simultaneously in different countries. For another, the circles have appeared throughout history: in the Middle Ages they were called "witches' circles" or "pixie circles" and a 1678 circle is pictured in a woodcut known as the "Mowing Devil."

Today, it is widely accepted that many formations are manmade.
But others resist attempts to explain them by conventional means. Crop circles remain, in large part, a mystery. "

The show (which is used to promote the movie) says that some circles made years ago are unexplained by the fact that the circle area still does not grow. In the footage the show uses, it seemed to me that the crop in question was dying all together. It looked like this was not a wheat field that still produces a harvest. Of coarse the tattoo of the damaged area would continue to be evident if no effort to grow wheat has been made since the discovery. Anyone else notice this?

Also, they state a claim that it is “unlikely” people would travel to this remote area of the earth to execute a prank. Truth is that this planet is fill with people that have way too much time on their hands. I mean, people spend tons of time to learn how to play the accordion, create and speak in Klingon, and bow to Mecca seven times a day.
:confused: Explain that!
 
RichardR said:

Haven't you heard of the film of Oliver's Castle? It was filmed happening.
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Thanks Richard! Sorensen's a pretty good writer. I loved his description of the speculative clandestine meeting at the pub between the hoax photographer and the shadowy crop circle artist!

CompJan
 
Also, they state a claim that it is “unlikely” people would travel to this remote area of the earth to execute a prank.
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The irony of that is, if they came from outerspace ,they came an even further distance.
 
A Minneapolis Start-Tribune article about crop circles.

The main part of the story is about a man who made a crop circle on his nephew's farm. Eight years later, he finally told his nephew that it was he who made the circles, and not an alien. The nephew hasn't spoken to him since he confessed.

There is also some nonsense in the article from people who believe the circles are created by aliens. I found this quote amusing:
[Gary Beckman, publisher of the Edge, a Twin Cities metaphysical newspaper] points out a six-pointed design discovered last month near Stonehenge that experts believe resembles flying ribbons, fueling his notion that "something is out there."
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I've never seen or heard of a "flying ribbon", and I don't know what one looks like, but I'm glad there are "experts" who can set me straight.

They do counter this with a quote from Pat Linse, cofounder of the Skeptics Society, in Altadena, Calif:
"It's one of the silliest paranormal beliefs I can think of."
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Just John
 
Dammit, I hate it when they make sense. But...I saw a show once that had a couple of guys making this HUGE crop circle thing in an hour. It was amazing how fast they could do it, with just a big wooden board. And it was pretty precise, too.
 
Now what the **** are those aliens thinking out there.

"lets foget about the colin endoscope and divices to inspect the genitals of Earthlings. Lets instead bring the Wead eater, the lawn mower, a few bottles of weed killer and make pretty pictures in the crop fields of England. We think those gullible Earthlings will be most amazed about would we can do with maize. We may even employ some Earthling practical jockers like Doug and Dave"

croc
 
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anduin said:
From the site:

What humans currently can't demostrate the ability to do are the following:
#1: Modify the chemical/molecular structure of the crops like those consistent with what we'll call "authentic crop formation phenomena".

Hogwash, such changes have never been witnessed.

#2: Leave no human evidence in the crop; IE: not breaking it and leaving footsteps, paths, etc.

Complete rubbish, it is really easy to get into the fields without leaving marks if one is careful.

#3: Create massive and complex crop circles/formations in seconds or minutes as has been evidenced by eyewitness accounts and video recordings.

Seconds? Where has there been a crop circle formed in seconds? I would love to see this proven.
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We have been through this and the thread died. Now there is some info--new to me--which I would like to offer here:

www.geocities.com/cprandrews/Crop_Circles_Research.html
www.cropcircleinfo.com/
cprandrews@worldnet.att.net
 
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RichardR said:

Haven't you heard of the film of Oliver's Castle? It was filmed happening.

Of course, after a couple of years, someone discovered the cameraman's day job - he is co-owner of a video special effects studio.
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How about this one:

www.memorologyllc.com/CropCircleInfo/Blackbird.htm

Let's just say that crop circles have NOT ALL been debunked as many are erroneously saying here (JREF in general)! Being skeptical is fine, to say that the answer to the phenomenon has been obvious for some time is plain wrong. People reading such misinformation are as gullible and mislead as those who believe that ALL circles are mysteries.
 
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Pscott said:


How about this one:

www.memorologyllc.com/CropCircleInfo/Blackbird.htm

Let's just say that crop circles have NOT ALL been debunked as many are erroneously saying here (JREF in general)! Being skeptical is fine, to say that the answer to the phenomenon has been obvious for some time is plain wrong. People reading such misinformation are as gullible and mislead as those who believe that ALL circles are mysteries.
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Not to be too negative here, but when so many crop circles have been proven to be made by humans ...

Of course, if enough people make them, debunking will be a matter of enough time to follow up on them all or admit that it is impossible to do so. In which case people will say "oh, they're not ALL debunked ...".

Your link ends like this: The full story will be published here. – COMING SOON.

Not much basis for debunking? Any other proof about this one?
 
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