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A woman vet is worth 2/5 of a male

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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/science/news/article.cfm?c_id=82&objectid=11766133

Massey University chancellor Chris Kelly accused of sexist comments

.......A university chancellor has been accused of sexism after he said a female veterinary graduate is worth only "two-fifths" of a full-time veterinarian.

Massey University chancellor Chris Kelly told Rural News that a female graduate is less of a vet because she has to take time out for marriage and family. The article about practical changes in farming and vet work courses was published last week.......................
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He kind of has a point to be fair

• More women apply for vet pre-selection in comparison to men. Of the 340 each year the ratio is about 75-25 and the same ratio get into the programme, which had an intake of 122 this year.

• The hours of work reported by male and females vets in the industry is the same until age 30. Across all ages women working as vets report working an average of 37 hours a week and men report working an average of 45 hours a week.
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Two fifths? Is that all? I would have pegged it at at least three fourths.

Come on Lady Vets, we know you can do better!
 
Unless they're being paid/salaried for time not working, how are they worth less for working fewer hours after age 30? Is there a shortage of veterenarians?
 
Actually, I would expect a man taking it for the normal reason would make history.
 
I don't know what is most disturbing in a University Chancellor:

- Not understanding that the comments would be taken as demeaning to women, who likely make up more than half of his clientele;
- Not understanding that maternity leave will impact some women's available working hours if we expect to continue biologically; or
- Not understanding that 37/45 is not close to two fifths. It's more than 3/4 for christ's sake.​

What exactly is his degree in that he no good at communications, biology or math?
 
Dr. Keith said:
I don't know what is most disturbing in a University Chancellor:

- Not understanding that the comments would be taken as demeaning to women, who likely make up more than half of his clientele;
- Not understanding that maternity leave will impact some women's available working hours if we expect to continue biologically; or
- Not understanding that 37/45 is not close to two fifths. It's more than 3/4 for christ's sake.​

What exactly is his degree in that he no good at communications, biology or math?
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Think he is talking about opening clinics etc as well
 
I do know several professional women who stopped working after the second baby. Or went to part time. I thought maybe the chancellor was taking that into account?
 
Dr. Keith said:
I don't know what is most disturbing in a University Chancellor:

- Not understanding that the comments would be taken as demeaning to women, who likely make up more than half of his clientele;
- Not understanding that maternity leave will impact some women's available working hours if we expect to continue biologically; or
- Not understanding that 37/45 is not close to two fifths. It's more than 3/4 for christ's sake.​

What exactly is his degree in that he no good at communications, biology or math?
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Womyn's Studies? Feminist sociobiology?
 
You'd think that the availability of abortion and birth control would allow women to avoid taking time off work. In the same way men were freed by the invention of beer in a portable can.
 
As a vet who has never married or had children and has worked full-time her entire life, including as a partner in a practice for ten years, I find that comment astoundingly offensive.

Back in the late 1960s when I was fixing up to go to vet college my riding instructor said to me, "they won't want you because you'll get married." Even aged 16 I had a feeling that might not be going to happen, and I was terrified. If I wasn't going to get married I needed a good career to support myself throughout my life on a single income, and if I was going to be barred from such a career on these grounds, what the hell was I going to do?

Fortunately the Dean of the Faculty in the late 1960s was more enlightened. Our class was the first to have approximately equal numbers of male and female students. He actually said to us that he'd decided the profession couldn't go on ignoring half the talent in the population. Over my career I've had, and still have, many talented and committed female colleagues who work full-time - including some with several children.

There is an issue now that the balance of the profession is tipping massively to the female side. It's not just that there is a higher percentage of "wastage" of trained graduates because of this, but the smaller percentage of colleagues who see a partership as part of their career path. But this has to be tackled sensibly and rationally, not by flinging out insults that stick to committed and hard-working women graduates who more than pull their weight.

You can't predict where an individual's career path will take them. A young man who graduated with me was killed in a car crash the following year. That's about as big a waste of an education as you can get. Some graduates will fall by the wayside for any number of reasons. The percentage of women graduates who take time out or work part time is higher on average than that of male graduates doing similar. It's something to take into account.

But if I ever find myself in the same room as this joker, he better watch out.
 
Dr. Keith said:
I don't know what is most disturbing in a University Chancellor:

- Not understanding that the comments would be taken as demeaning to women, who likely make up more than half of his clientele;
- Not understanding that maternity leave will impact some women's available working hours if we expect to continue biologically; or
- Not understanding that 37/45 is not close to two fifths. It's more than 3/4 for christ's sake.​

What exactly is his degree in that he no good at communications, biology or math?
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Chancelling?

BTW, am I the only one who saw the thread title and thought "veteran"?
 
Rolfe said:
As a vet who has never married or had children and has worked full-time her entire life, including as a partner in a practice for ten years, I find that comment astoundingly offensive.

Back in the late 1960s when I was fixing up to go to vet college my riding instructor said to me, "they won't want you because you'll get married." Even aged 16 I had a feeling that might not be going to happen, and I was terrified. If I wasn't going to get married I needed a good career to support myself throughout my life on a single income, and if I was going to be barred from such a career on these grounds, what the hell was I going to do?

Fortunately the Dean of the Faculty in the late 1960s was more enlightened. Our class was the first to have approximately equal numbers of male and female students. He actually said to us that he'd decided the profession couldn't go on ignoring half the talent in the population. Over my career I've had, and still have, many talented and committed female colleagues who work full-time - including some with several children.

There is an issue now that the balance of the profession is tipping massively to the female side. It's not just that there is a higher percentage of "wastage" of trained graduates because of this, but the smaller percentage of colleagues who see a partership as part of their career path. But this has to be tackled sensibly and rationally, not by flinging out insults that stick to committed and hard-working women graduates who more than pull their weight.

You can't predict where an individual's career path will take them. A young man who graduated with me was killed in a car crash the following year. That's about as big a waste of an education as you can get. Some graduates will fall by the wayside for any number of reasons. The percentage of women graduates who take time out or work part time is higher on average than that of male graduates doing similar. It's something to take into account.

But if I ever find myself in the same room as this joker, he better watch out.
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Yeah, but your opinion is only worth 2/5s of his

(JOKE!!!!)
 
It's kind of crazy how women get the "time off" excuse to raise their family, but I was working my longest hours ever while carrying on an affair (and I got zero sympathy).
 
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