A quick bit of wisdom from a young type human.

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I frequent another posting board as well as this one. Wel, okay, I don't frequent this one yet, since I just joined it, but trust me, you'll be sick of me within the hour.

The other board has a member by the handle FreeThinkingMind. He's 15. He once gave the the following definitions, which I thought most people here could appreciate:

Philosophy is always asking questions which can never be answered.

Religion is always giving answers which it refuses to have questioned.
 
Some Friggin Guy said:
I frequent another posting board as well as this one. Wel, okay, I don't frequent this one yet, since I just joined it, but trust me, you'll be sick of me within the hour.

The other board has a member by the handle FreeThinkingMind. He's 15. He once gave the the following definitions, which I thought most people here could appreciate:

Philosophy is always asking questions which can never be answered.
You've angered the mighty Philosopher Gods! Philosopher Yahweh ANGRY! Philosopher Yahweh SMASH!

When giving definitions, its a good idea to consult dictionary.com for a very quick non-bias to-the-point definition.

When I teach my class, I teach to the kids that the defintion of Philosophy is "Investigation of the nature, causes, or principles of reality, knowledge, or values, based on logical reasoning rather than empirical methods".

Philosophy is far far away from asking questions which can never be answered. Much of Philosophy is rooted in exploring the world around us, going about the human mind, and a good 50% of Philosophy is a little something called Ethics.

Believe me, if you spend a while on the boards, you'll learn more than your fair share of Philosophy (quite a bit from Philosopher Yahweh himself... and quite a bit from Stimpson J. Cat... and if you have a sense of humor, maybe a little from Interesting Ian).

Religion is always giving answers which it refuses to have questioned.
Religion has many definitions. I define it as "A system of morality and mythology usually based on the teachings of a spiritual leader". According to the Yahweh definition, thats why Science is not a religion, neither is Atheism, Darwinism, or Evolutionism.

Yahweh's first rule of argueing successfully, dont make up facts out of nowhere, they usually dont constitute very well for a strong arguement (and they give your credibility quite a beatin').

I say, bring your friend over to these boards, he might have fun.
 
Yahweh,

First, as I said, I am a philosopher, myself, though in a different manner than you seem to be, which is fine. My view is that we can only reach our goals by travelling the path we see is best for us.

I didn't say I agreed with FreeThinkingMind's ideas of Philosophy, or religion.

I brought it up because it has some merits to it, in its simplisity.

To say that philosophy is asking questions which can never be answered is partially true. Scince, as you say, philosophy is 50% ethics (I'm not sure I would agree with that in the absolute, but I will go with it for now) and ethics are more subjective than most people like to admit (even philosophers. I'll explain in a second.) then the answers gained through philosophical questioning are not abosolute, and since a question, by definition, begs an answer to be correct, and correct generally implies an absolute, then the questions of philosophy truly can never be answered, given that definition.

About the idea that ethics are subjective, ethics, as I have observed them in my life, rely heavily on the circumstances around them. A high-level (and admittedly simplistic) example is: Is the taking of a human life ethical?

To say no, is to imply that there is never a case where it is ethical to take a human life. This would be an ethical absolute. However, if a person is suffering in terrible pain and asks to be killed for reliefe, using that same ethical absolute, we cannot, ethically, end that person's suffering. So, in this case, there is an ethical argument in favor of taking that human life.

As for the idea of religion that my young friend expressed, he was referring to organized religion, and specifically, religious dogma. You are correct in your definition of religion, however, when looking at the concepts of organized religion (namely, the "big three"), one may begin to see FTM's point.

Now you've done it, Yahweh...


You've made me switch to a logical thought process again.

I wish you wouldn't do that, I find it more interesting to view sanity from my constant haze of psychosis.

Editted to add:

Our definitions of philosophy are somewhat different as well. Yours is valid, and is also a dictionary definition to the letter.

Mine is this: Philosophy is the love and pursuit of wisdom through knoweldge, observation, comparitive thought and mental discipline.

Not exactly a dictionary definition, but close, seeing as dictioanry.com lists:

Love and pursuit of wisdom by intellectual means and moral self-discipline.
 
Metaphysics is always asking questions which can never be answered

YHes, trhat would probably be more accurate.

Now that I have gotten home from work and am about ready to pass out from exhaustion, I realize I probably should have mentioned that my young friend is Dutch and English is not really his primary language.
 
Some Friggin Guy said:
I frequent another posting board as well as this one. Wel, okay, I don't frequent this one yet, since I just joined it, but trust me, you'll be sick of me within the hour.

The other board has a member by the handle FreeThinkingMind. He's 15. He once gave the the following definitions, which I thought most people here could appreciate:

Philosophy is always asking questions which can never be answered.

So, I assume this friend of yours has discovered significant facts about Reality to be able to make this claim, and, indeed, has done so without deference to philosophic method (reason, essentially)? That's pretty neat, and necessary, otherwise his claim would contain a glaring contradiction, wouldn't it.

How wise we think we are at 15 :rolleyes:


Dan Rowden
 
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos said:
Perhaps this would be better:

Metaphysics is always asking questions which can never be answered.

~~ Paul

Woody Allen had a good one about metaphysics:

He was caught cheating on a Metaphysics Exam - he gazed into the soul of the boy next to him.
 

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