A Question For Truthers Regarding the CD Theory

[Sabretooth]

I have asked the bolded question below of several truthers in the JREF across multiple threads. I have yet to get a response, let alone an attempt to answer. At this point I can only assume that it cannot be answered. I decided to put the question in it's own thread so I'm not spamming in multiple places. Any truther care to answer?

What medium, item, or process can cut structural steel, in multiple places, with precision, that not only is very quiet, but also does not produce a blinding flash of light, is fire-proof, and can be applied without being detected either before, during, or after it's use?

As long as this question goes even partially unanswered, the CD/Pull theory is dead. As is the Twoof Movement.

 

[ergo]

What medium or item can cut structural steel, in multiple places, with precision, that not only is very quiet, but also does not produce a blinding flash of light, is fire-proof, and can be applied without being detected either before, during, or after it's use?

That's a very good question, to which I would add "What medium or item ... or process....". But the rest:

As long as this question goes even partially unanswered, the CD/Pull theory is dead. As is the Twoof Movement.

doesn't follow. The "truth" "movement", if that's what it must be called, is obviously seeking the truth about the WTC collapses (among other things), since the two investigations that have been done so far do not provide adequate explanations, and the NIST seems explicitly to be hiding information. Presenting hypotheses about the collapses is part of that truth-seeking effort. Whether the hypotheses fit or not does not decide the effort "dead". There could be other explanations not yet fully conceived.

Perhaps you would like to attempt to answer your own question?

 

[Sabretooth]

That's a very good question, to which I would add "What medium or item ... or process....". But the rest:

Done. Edited into the OP.

doesn't follow. The "truth" "movement", if that's what it must be called, is obviously seeking the truth about the WTC collapses (among other things), since the two investigations that have been done so far do not provide adequate explanations, and the NIST seems explicitly to be hiding information. Presenting hypotheses about the collapses is part of that truth-seeking effort. Whether the hypotheses fit or not does not decide the effort "dead". There could be other explanations not yet fully conceived.

Dodge noted.

Perhaps you would like to attempt to answer your own question?

It's not for me to answer. I don't believe in the CD theory.

 

[TK0001]

[Devil's Advocate]

What about thermite charges strategically placed into pre-notched beams?

[/Devil's Advocate]

 

[Miragememories]

I have asked the bolded question below of several truthers in the JREF across multiple threads. I have yet to get a response, let alone an attempt to answer. At this point I can only assume that it cannot be answered. I decided to put the question in it's own thread so I'm not spamming in multiple places. Any truther care to answer?

What medium, item, or process can cut structural steel, in multiple places, with precision, that not only is very quiet, but also does not produce a blinding flash of light, is fire-proof, and can be applied without being detected either before, during, or after it's use?

As long as this question goes even partially unanswered, the CD/Pull theory is dead. As is the Twoof Movement.

Your ignorance is telling.

The 9/11 Truth Movement's purpose is to raise public awareness to the point that they well apply enough pressure
on the government to bring about a full and proper 9/11 investigation.

It is a fool's game to speculate about 'how to' theories and the real narrative behind 9/11.

The NIST Reports are essentially speculation which is why they are so easy to attack.

MM

 

[TK0001]

The 9/11 Truth Movement's purpose is to raise public awareness to the point that they well apply enough pressure
on the government to bring about a full and proper 9/11 investigation.

You would trust the findings of a(nother) government-sponsored investigation if it didn't yield the results you desire?

 

[ozeco41]

[Devil's Advocate]

What about thermite charges strategically placed into pre-notched beams?

[/Devil's Advocate]

That is a truther style claim - a bit of a possible technical claim with absolutely zero fit to context. To be taken seriously* it must be provided with a valid context which leads to questions such as:

1) Which beams?
2) When fired?
3) How concealed before, during and after?
4)....etc. You get the drift



* I realise you didn't want it taken seriously.

 

[Miragememories]

You would trust the findings of a(nother) government-sponsored investigation if it didn't yield the results you desire?

The only result I desire is the truth.

Hopefully an investigation will reveal the inside nature of 9/11 wasn't as sinister as it appears to be.

MM

 

[TK0001]

That is a truther style claim - a bit of a possible technical claim with absolutely zero fit to context. To be taken seriously* it must be provided with a valid context which leads to questions such as:

1) Which beams?
2) When fired?
3) How concealed before, during and after?
4)....etc. You get the drift



* I realise you didn't want it taken seriously.

Oh, there's also no way in hell any explosive could've been protected from planes flying into it either way, but I thought I'd pose as a truther for a second.

 

[ozeco41]

Your ignorance is telling.

The 9/11 Truth Movement's purpose is to raise public awareness to the point that they well apply enough pressure
on the government to bring about a full and proper 9/11 investigation...

The post was not about the "9/11 Truth Movement's purpose... HOWEVER

Some elements of the truth movement may have a legitimate concern about the politics of how 9/11 was used to "justify" war. Those people want Government accountability tested on those political issues.

On Government's side helping Government to resist calls for more investigation are all the truthers making ridiculous technical claims about demolition, no plane and such. Political stupidity of a high order.

A political truism - "If making demands of a political process don't include lies in your demands. The politicians will focus on the lies, use the lies to show that you are wrong, and ignore any legitimate concerns you may have."

Remember it is politicians that you are trying to convince to criticise other politicians. And the base factor for that is that all politicians are members of the same club - party political differences come second - so they will look for any excuse to avoid judging their own.

Telling ridiculous lies about demolition of WTC is one such easy excuse for those politicians to cop out.

[/politics101]

 

[Trojan]

Your ignorance is telling.

The 9/11 Truth Movement's purpose is to raise public awareness to the point that they well apply enough pressure
on the government to bring about a full and proper 9/11 investigation.

Who will lead the investigation? how will it be funded? what process will take place in the new investigation that did not happen in the first and why will this matter?

 

[twinstead]

The only result I desire is the truth.

Hopefully an investigation will reveal the inside nature of 9/11 wasn't as sinister as it appears to be.

MM

With all due respect, who cares if it appears sinister to YOU? And, how many people does it need to appear sinister to to warrant a new investigation?

 

[332nd]

The NIST Reports are essentially speculation which is why they are so easy to attack.

MM

Well hell, any MMA or boxing champ is easy to attack. The hard part is the counters, and like most of their opponents, that is when the tm fails.

 

[ozeco41]

.... but I thought I'd pose as a truther for a second.

It's not easy is it?

 

[beachnut]

Your ignorance is telling.

Wow, you presented your standard all the evidence in. You better keep your evidence secret, or someone will know you have zero.

The 9/11 Truth Movement's purpose is to raise public awareness to the point that they well apply enough pressure
on the government to bring about a full and proper 9/11 investigation.

Pressure the government to repeat investigations dumbed down enough for the idiots in 911 truth. That is impossible.

I might add, 911 truth purpose is to raise awareness using moronic claims based on lies, delusions and hearsay. They are in the 10th year of failure.

It is a fool's game to speculate about 'how to' theories and the real narrative behind 9/11.

You have a the CD delusion, you should know.

The NIST Reports are essentially speculation which is why they are so easy to attack.

Translation --- 911 truth don't do science, so they spew the standard NIST reports is speculation. Good post MM, off topic and full of 911 truth evidence.

CD is dead? I thought you were a CD truther, why did you change? BTW, claiming you are only asking for a new investigation is standard tangential claptrap to avoid supporting your moronic CD claims since you have no,,, evidence.

 

[TK0001]

It's not easy is it?

It's too easy, actually. I was going to move the goalposts as soon as someone was going to pin me down on my first point. Probably would've went with:

WT7 WUZNT HIT BY A PLAYNE!!@#

or some such.





I do feel a bit dirty, though.

 

[tsig]

The only result I desire is the truth.

Hopefully an investigation will reveal the inside nature of 9/11 wasn't as sinister as it appears to be.

MM

You seem to have already found the truth.

 

[werewolf]

I have asked the bolded question below of several truthers in the JREF across multiple threads. I have yet to get a response, let alone an attempt to answer. At this point I can only assume that it cannot be answered. I decided to put the question in it's own thread so I'm not spamming in multiple places. Any truther care to answer?

What medium, item, or process can cut structural steel, in multiple places, with precision, that not only is very quiet, but also does not produce a blinding flash of light, is fire-proof, and can be applied without being detected either before, during, or after it's use?

As long as this question goes even partially unanswered, the CD/Pull theory is dead. As is the Twoof Movement.

As what you call a "truther" I shall respond to you who are presumably a Liar, the enemy of "truthers".

We do not know the exact process that they used to demolish the twin towers and 7 WTC. I expect it was a combination of known methods, like thermite, and unknown weaponry. Remember that the CIA, military, Mossad, etc. has a virtually unlimited budget to do nothing with except develop in secret new and better ways to kill people and destroy things. What we do know for sure - and we know this with absolute 100% certainty - is that the official party line - the gag about this dialysis patient who just happened to have been on the CIA payroll (Tim Osmond) and part of the family that financed Baby Doc Bush's first business venture - this guy - who apparently died in Dc. 2001 - supposedly headquartered in a series of gigantic ultramodern caverns in the Himalayan foothills - along with his 19 little "Islamanaics" who were goofing off as loudly and goofily as possible at CIA-connected flight schools, strip bars, Jack Abramoff's casino boats, etc. - who couldn't even fly a tiny Cessna - who weren't even on board - and half of them appear to be alive and well after 911 - and "they hated us because of our freedom", see - well, we know that BS is just that, 100% BS.

But of course the official 911 party line makes 100% perfect sense to you Liars, or so you tell us.

(add the www - it won't let me post links) youtube.com/watch?v=FGhGHxw0mSo

Secretary of [sic] Defense Rumsfeld educating the canon fodder about Osama bin Boogyman's many supergigantic caverns. We're not supposed to remember this.




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[Sabretooth]

As what you call a "truther" I shall respond to you who are presumably a Liar, the enemy of "truthers".

We do not know the exact process that they used to demolish the twin towers and 7 WTC. I expect it was a combination of known methods, like thermite, and unknown weaponry. Remember that the CIA, military, Mossad, etc. has a virtually unlimited budget to do nothing with except develop in secret new and better ways to kill people and destroy things. What we do know for sure - and we know this with absolute 100% certainty - is that the official party line - the gag about this dialysis patient who just happened to have been on the CIA payroll (Tim Osmond) and part of the family that financed Baby Doc Bush's first business venture - this guy - who apparently died in Dc. 2001 - supposedly headquartered in a series of gigantic ultramodern caverns in the Himalayan foothills - along with his 19 little "Islamanaics" who were goofing off as loudly and goofily as possible at CIA-connected flight schools, strip bars, Jack Abramoff's casino boats, etc. - who couldn't even fly a tiny Cessna - who weren't even on board - and half of them appear to be alive and well after 911 - and "they hated us because of our freedom", see - well, we know that BS is just that, 100% BS.

But of course the official 911 party line makes 100% perfect sense to you Liars, or so you tell us.

(add the www - it won't let me post links) youtube.com/watch?v=FGhGHxw0mSo

Secretary of [sic] Defense Rumsfeld educating the canon fodder about Osama bin Boogyman's many supergigantic caverns. We're not supposed to remember this.




ww

This is awesome. It's like a time machine!

I'm almost feeling bad that this one got banned. Could have been entertaining.

 

[Sabretooth]

Your ignorance is telling.

The 9/11 Truth Movement's purpose is to raise public awareness to the point that they well apply enough pressure
on the government to bring about a full and proper 9/11 investigation.

It is a fool's game to speculate about 'how to' theories and the real narrative behind 9/11.

The NIST Reports are essentially speculation which is why they are so easy to attack.

MM

Do me a favor...pretend that last part of my OP doesn't exist.

Answer the bolded question.