A Man Who Went To Mars

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This guy claims he went to Mars last year.
It isn't even convincing as science fiction. I immediately spotted several big flaws in his story (like how nobody noticed the launch or spotted them toodling around on the Martian surface) besides the usual conspiracy-fail of "I'm in hiding and in fear of my life, so I'll post my story on the internetz!"

Anywayz, I'm leaving this for the rest of you to have some fun with.
 
This guy claims he went to Mars last year.
It isn't even convincing as science fiction. I immediately spotted several big flaws in his story (like how nobody noticed the launch or spotted them toodling around on the Martian surface) besides the usual conspiracy-fail of "I'm in hiding and in fear of my life, so I'll post my story on the internetz!"

Anywayz, I'm leaving this for the rest of you to have some fun with.
The man is a dreamer.
 
ask him if he saw the statue of Mickey Mouse that I erected last time I was there.
 
It is a shame, I guess the air finally did run out, leaving Barsoom a wasteland.
 
It's a nicely told tale... with a number of telling mistakes.

C: We were on the surface for about 65 hours, enough time to gather samples and collate gas makeup readings of the atmosphere, and to explore a little bit. Radiation was always going to be an issue, so we had strict allocations of surface time, then we had to return.

Since he claims that he used regular technology to get there, he would have had to spend several months on the planet rather than 65 hours, waiting for Earth to come back in line for a launch. That is something that was not a real issue with the Moon and obviously the writer did not realize this.
 
It's a nicely told tale... with a number of telling mistakes.
Since he claims that he used regular technology to get there, he would have had to spend several months on the planet rather than 65 hours, waiting for Earth to come back in line for a launch. That is something that was not a real issue with the Moon and obviously the writer did not realize this.
Also, I believe that 2010/2011 was a bad 'launch window' for Mars anyway so it would have taken them a lot longer than the claimed 230 days to get there.
And he thinks that nobody can possibly trace him on Twitter....
 
M: How does Mars look compared to the pictures that the public has been shown?
C: Mars is exactly like on those photos.

Is this an Adam Sandler script?

I love the "photos NASA doesn't want you to see" that they got from NASA!
 
It's a nicely told tale... with a number of telling mistakes.



Since he claims that he used regular technology to get there, he would have had to spend several months on the planet rather than 65 hours, waiting for Earth to come back in line for a launch. That is something that was not a real issue with the Moon and obviously the writer did not realize this.

Is there a model we could use to determine where the positions of Earth and Mars were at the given time of his launch, and where they were the 230 days later after travelling there, to compare his travel there and back?

This seems like an easy way to debunk it, if the line up was drastically different, and it only took them a little less time to return.

ETA: What is the most likely time that this trip could occur, given the 230 days there, almost 3 days hanging out, little less time to get back, quarantine, escape and desert wandering, leading up to the Feb 2012 encounter on Twitter?
 
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Is there a model we could use to determine where the positions of Earth and Mars were at the given time of his launch, and where they were the 230 days later after travelling there, to compare his travel there and back?

This seems like an easy way to debunk it, if the line up was drastically different, and it only took them a little less time to return.

ETA: What is the most likely time that this trip could occur, given the 230 days there, almost 3 days hanging out, little less time to get back, quarantine, escape and desert wandering, leading up to the Feb 2012 encounter on Twitter?

http://www.stellarium.org/
 
Is there a model we could use to determine where the positions of Earth and Mars were at the given time of his launch, and where they were the 230 days later after travelling there, to compare his travel there and back?

This seems like an easy way to debunk it, if the line up was drastically different, and it only took them a little less time to return.

ETA: What is the most likely time that this trip could occur, given the 230 days there, almost 3 days hanging out, little less time to get back, quarantine, escape and desert wandering, leading up to the Feb 2012 encounter on Twitter?
The nearest clues to timing:
. It took us about 230 days to get there, and slightly less back.
and
The reason for going public now is that we got back about three months ago,
So the launch date was about 500 days before November '11. My back-of-an-envelope maths tells me that this would be around July '10. Hopefully, some space buff can tell us how long a standard rocket launched then would take to get to Mars.
 
I was lucky. I spent a few days aimlessly roaming the desert, and then I bumped into one of the many nomadic tribes who helped me get safe passage out of there. I headed for Mumbai, hitchhiking and walking, and then got aboard a freight ship heading for Europe. In all my training, I was always taught self-reliance and to be resourceful. I always thought this could be a dodgy contract, so I had stored up funds and duplicate ID's in safety deposit boxes in certain parts of Europe, and I headed to these places. Safe deposit boxes are so easy to conceal anything you like in them, as no one questions them. Amazing, really.
This guy is obviously a big fan of the Red Rascal....

(And do Americans use words like "dodgy"?)
 
Wow, they took equipment to analyse their samples along on the journey and analysed the samples on the way back.

There were plenty of minerals that we analyzed on the way home: metals, particularly gold(?), and some other substance that was a form of composite like carbon fiber, but already in a usable form.

They must've had resources to spare.


but then:
We had a miniature bore hole machine that allowed us to drill into the core and collect samples down to a depth three meters. These were stored in the lander under strict guidelines and kept in tubes so they wouldn't be contaminated on the journey back.
so what were they analysing on the way back and why were there different guidlines for that?
 
The man is a dreamer.

But his heart’s of gold!

So I had some interesting flags pop up when I was reading the article. But first I did a touch of background on the author, Morgan Kochel. Here’s her Twitter account where she claims to be “an independent researcher, lifelong mystic, and info-sponge . . .” So, yeah, that’s the person we’re dealing with who claims to be providing us this factual account.

Then, some other stuff definitely popped for me:

Morgan Kochel said:
(Chad wished to use Twitter due to its current relative security.)

If Chad really wanted to maintain security, why didn’t he insist on keeping the method of the interview secret? Pointing to Twitter eliminates all the other sundry channels of communication, including good ole fashioned F2F. For a guy on the run and in fear of his life, but with tons of training, he doesn’t sound too smart. This is especially true, if, as Chad says:

I can tell you now that most of the major IT companies in the U.S. have covert operatives observing them, including Google, Facebook, etc. Probably Twitter . . .

If he even suspects Twitter, why use it!?

We are all learning a great deal this year already about things that have been previously hidden to the majority of Earth's people, thanks mostly to the proliferation of the Internet . . . Not hastening to judgement is a sign of wisdom, not gullibility. It is in this spirit that I offer the following story, and I hope you enjoy reading it as much as I did hearing about it!

This is an interesting front-load that most reporters would never think to provide as a preface to their articles. After all, the article speaks for itself, and the reporter is only acting as a conduit (and commentator) for the report. The 2012 winners of the Pulitzer for investigative reporting didn’t front-load their articles by saying that you should hasten to judgment. They present their case, along with the facts, and that speaks for itself.

Then we have this little nugget from Chat:

There were plenty of minerals that we analyzed on the way home: metals, particularly gold(?), and some other substance that was a form of composite like carbon fiber, but already in a usable form. The list of items gathered was long, all of it valuable, some were totally unique, others were more mundane.

But a bit latter, when the question of UFOs and whatnot is asked, Chad contradicts himself saying:

We did record some interesting sights on the cameras, but nothing conclusive. Also, it was immediately sent back and deleted from our computers, so we couldn't review them.

That makes no sense if they were analyzing “on the way home”. Why would some data be immediately deleted from the computers “so we couldn’t review them” but other data was left for analysis?

And then, Chad makes this statement:

Do you know what the worst thing is about all of this is? Apart from you and one other contact of mine who is also an agent, I can't talk to anyone about it. So here I am with this momentous achievement and no one can know!

So Chad was working for a Russian/Chinese coalition on this mission who are now trying to kill him. Yet he’s in contact with an (I suppose) American agent, I would guess CIA from all the CIA talk Chad makes. Yet, the CIA wouldn’t want to pull Chad in and debrief him? He’s on the run from this coalition group who want to kill him, but he can’t come under the protection of the CIA who, as Chad stated earlier, are “truly a law unto themselves”?

Then we get this juicy little contradiction when Chad is asked about his “radiation sickness”:

Sickness is ok, controlled by medication, and luckily it's only mild.

When previous, when Chad had talked about being sick, and had stated:

I feel sick and dizzy from time to time, but it is difficult to treat when no one believes you!

Right after that, Kochel asked him, “What do you think is wrong, Chad had been very specific that:

I'm going for tests this week, I don't think those [space]suits were up to much. I feel weak and sick sometimes. You could actually be writing my Last Will & Testament, not that anyone will believe me, or at least that's what I'm used to.

So which is it? Is no one treating him for “radiation sickness” because they don’t believe his story (because doctor's always balk at treating a patient when they don't get full disclosure that they believe), or is he getting treatment and medication and his sickness is only mild?

Finally, Chad’s entire background (if taken at face value) doesn’t really sound like he’s a viable candidate for a Russian/Chinese secret space mission to Mars. Chad studied math at Portland State University, and bounced through a couple of jobs before ending up with the U.S. Airforce. What he did for them, with a math background, was probably not jet piloting, or mine operations, and we know he wasn’t the “chief engineer” (of a crew of three). While working at NASA he was “seconded to the CIA” in order to “observe some foreign scientists”. That’s not really astronaut-linked work, and the basic requirements for an astronaut include “professional experience or at least 1,000 hours of pilot-in-command time in jet aircraft” NASA link. An advanced degree is usually a pre-requisite, and Chad doesn’t have one of those. Unless his math studies went beyond the Bachelor of Science level at PSU and he just failed to mention that, which further seems unlikely, as most post-grad degrees are attained at a different university (not always, but generally).

Then, there’s Chad’s age at the time of the Russian/Chinese coalition mission, which he states is “late thirties”. Chad’s entire team is American, which seems even further removed from possibility that not just one, but three guys with roughly the same NASA/astronaut background were able to find themselves in this unlikely mission to Mars. Really? Not one Russian or Chinese could be found, trained and sent up on this very important mission, but instead a CIA-trained, thirty-something, American is seen as a viable alternate!?

Color me skeptical.
 
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I found a picture of him on an EVA:

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The nearest clues to timing:
and

So the launch date was about 500 days before November '11. My back-of-an-envelope maths tells me that this would be around July '10. Hopefully, some space buff can tell us how long a standard rocket launched then would take to get to Mars.

Missed that second bit, good catch!
 
The standard way to spread this story is not f2f it is C2C. Keep an ear on George or Art.
 
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