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A Jew Who Is A Holocaust Skeptic

Mondial

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The politically correct media and individuals like to smear all holocaust skeptics as "nazis", "fascists", "anti semites" etc. But how do they explain the case of David Cole who is a holocaust skeptic and a Jew? He made a documentary about his visit to the Auschwitz camp -
www.codoh.com/newsite/multimedia/Piper1of2.wmv
www.codoh.com/newsite/multimedia/Piper2of2.wmv
He is also the author of "46 Important Unanswered Questions Regarding The Nazi Gas Chambers" -
www.codoh.com/gcgv/gc46-origi.html
After this activity he was threatened with death by thugs from the JDL (Jewish Defense League). As he was looking after a sick, elderley relative and the JDL published his home address online and was asking people to physically assault him he recanted his views. But after the relative died he took back the recantation and stated it was because of the death threats. He contacted Bradley Smith from CODOH (Committee For Open Debate On The Holocaust www.codoh.com ) stating he again supported holocaust revisionism. His present whereabouts are unknown.
 
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Mondial said:
The politically correct media and individuals like to smear all holocaust skeptics as "nazis", "fascists", "anti semites" etc. But how do they explain the case of David Cole who is a holocaust skeptic and a Jew?
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The same way he explained it himself: He was foolish, wrong, and consumed by self-hatred.
 
Where the other revisionists are political and/or racial ideologues, Cole's interests run at a deeper level. He is a meta-ideologue--an existentialist on a quest to understand how ideologues invent their realities. In the process, Cole has joined every conceivable organization, including the Revolutionary Communist Party, the Workers World Party, the John Birchers, Lyndon LaRouchers, the Libertarians, the atheists, the humanists, and yes, even the Skeptics Society. Revisionism, then, is just one in a long line of ideologies that has fascinated Cole since he was expelled from Hamilton High.
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Source.

I think I know the personality type.
 
Gazpacho said:
The same way he explained it himself: He was foolish, wrong, and consumed by self-hatred.
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What's funny about it is that the racist revisionists see Cole's statement against Holocaust denial as some sort of proof that the Holocaust never happened. Yeah, they really are that sick and stupid.:rolleyes:
 
But how do they explain the case of David Cole who is a holocaust skeptic and a Jew?
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What a silly question. There are enough Jews in the world that it's scarcely surprising to find at least one that's mentally disturbed enough to be (or claim to be) a Holocaust denier.

Any chance of some evidence that the JDL threatened to kill him (apart from links to Holocaust denial sites, of course)? Cole (a person with severe mental problems) said he was afraid for his life – not the same thing. If they did publish his address then that was wrong and I don't condone it, but I must say I find it hard to care.

There was some discussion in this thread from 2005. If it's true that Cole has recanted his recantation then I was right and I claim the million.
 
Gazpacho said:
http://web.archive.org/web/19970603092508/http://www.jdl.org/Traitor_amer.html

It's no secret that the JDL were and are thugs. If David Cole has indeed gone back to holocaust denial, then he is also a thug.
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Thanks – I didn't care to read anything else from the JDL when I first came across them on the earlier thread, as I found their activities objectionable. What abominable language, and it certainly makes it more likely that he did receive actual death threats, but I still wouldn't take his word for it.

I don't think there's any point in calling Cole a thug (or a 'revolting and horrible monster' or a 'despicable low-life beast', as the JDL did). His behaviour is completely incomprehensible - so far removed from anything we are familiar with as ordinary dishonesty, viciousness, treachery, or self-interest of any kind, that it's plain insane.

Obviously the JDL was right that "David Cole is being used by and manipulated by the neo-Nazis to further promote their agendas of hate", but (leaving aside the language) it seems unreasonable to make such a fuss, precisely because the issue of a single Jewish Holocaust denier is so trivial. (Not what he did, of course – that is utterly vile – but any general inference.)

There's no reason to suppose that his recantation of his Holocaust denial, or his recantation of his recantation (if true), happened for any more rational motives than his initial denial. After some further investigation it is clear to me that his 'reasons' were much more complex than fear of reprisals. There's a very interesting section in Shermer and Grobman's book Denying History: Who Says the Holocaust Never Happened and Why Do They Say It?:
When asked if it was possible that Cole wrote the retraction in order to protect himself, Rubin responded:
"I stake my personal credibility on his conversion. It is a result of the fact that someone made him see the light of day. Someone offered him stone cold proof of the Holocaust and so he converted. He realized he was previously distorting. I know it for a fact because I had a fist fight with him at UCLA and he was humiliated. For a guy to turn round and send me $200 cash he must really mean it. He has total contempt for Bradley Smith and Ernst Zündel. I had great trepidation until I saw the notary stamp with the letter. People do make these radical changes. I think the guy is sincere. In correspondence with me he says he quit the denial movement three years ago, and we only put out our materials on the Internet a year ago."
Nevertheless, Rubin concluded his remarks by reiterating that Cole "was deadly afraid for his life, that someone would find him and shoot him."
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The whole thing has the decided ring of truth. Cole's fearfulness, his cringing before bullies (as in his previous association with neo-Nazis), his rejection of his former associates, and transference of emotional and intellectual dependence to their enemy, are suggestive of paranoid mental illness. Rubin believed Cole, because the 'conversion' flattered his powers of persuasion, and because they had developed a bizarre emotional relationship – and Cole probably did mean it at the time. I haven't found any proof that he's now rejoined the Holocaust denial movement, but it would fit the pattern.
 
Mondial said:
The politically correct media and individuals like to smear all holocaust skeptics as "nazis", "fascists", "anti semites" etc. But how do they explain the case of David Cole who is a holocaust skeptic and a Jew? .
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I can explain it. He's an idiot. Nuff said.
 
Somehow every anti-semite has his little favorite Jew who agrees with him. That they think it even matters much that he's a Jew speaks volumes.
 
When Ron Paul supporter David Duke ran for Senate in 1990, there was, as I recall, a grass-roots Jews for Duke organization. It may have been just a single Cole-like crazy, or perhaps a whole coo-coo for cocoa puffs coffee klatsch. There will always be occassional self-loathers to lend a self-sense of credibility to bigots.
 
Mondial,

according to your logic, even a single German who thinks that the Holocaust really happened would be overwhelming evidence that it did. Well, here I am. Now do you admit you´re wrong?
 
hgc said:
When Ron Paul supporter David Duke ran for Senate in 1990, there was, as I recall, a grass-roots Jews for Duke organization. It may have been just a single Cole-like crazy,
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It was probably Cole.
 
Chaos said:
Mondial,

according to your logic, even a single German who thinks that the Holocaust really happened would be overwhelming evidence that it did. Well, here I am. Now do you admit you´re wrong?
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Make that two.
 
The Holocaust happened. I'm still uncomfortable with some scholars being imprisoned for questioning the nature and extent of the Holocaust.
Feels a bit like Stalinism to me.
 
plumjam said:
The Holocaust happened. I'm still uncomfortable with some scholars being imprisoned for questioning the nature and extent of the Holocaust.
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Not here. In America you're free to have any retarded belief you want.
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And yes the JDL are jerks. Holocaust still happened.
 
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