a critical look at Kent Hovind.

Janet Jackson pops a boob for money
O'Rielly acts like a boob for money
Hovind impersonates a boob for money.

What is so difficult to understand?
 
Interesting. Thanks for posting the link. Obviously the good doctor has an agenda to push, so perhaps it's not surprising that he uses annectdotes and misleading statements to bolster his case. As a kid growing up in a fundie enviroment I knew that 'evolution' was bad, although not the specifics of why. After learning what it (evolution) meant, I didn't see it as a threat to my moral fiber or to God in general. I thought there was much fuss over nothing. I still think that.
Little did I know that you evil evolution believers were causing kids to shoot kids and turning hapless 16 year olds into atheists. Thanks a lot, you scientific plonkers. ;)
 
Something to always remember, with fundies the agenda is the convert you, in science the agenda is to discover truth...

Which do you trust?
 
Egads. The guy was a science teacher before that? What kind of science? Grade 1 introduction to how grass grows?
 
Blame education for increased killing? Um....weren't people slaughtering non christians by the gazillions long before there was any of the education he's implicating?
 
Education doesn't teach kids to shoot each other! What is wrong with these people?
 
Does he expect us to hide information about gravity because people have died falling down stars?
 
A whole bunch of links into quacky Kent's world. Incidentally, he recently tried to convince the IRS that he had no money to pay back-taxes...despite the big house, many cars and DinoLand theme park he has built from money conned off the gullible "believers" in his nuttery.

Question the second: Isn't it illegal in Florida to run a quiz or competition and NOT give the prize to a successful applicant? (There have been several applicants for Hovind's $250,000 prize, all of whom met the criteria he set in spades, but Kent failed to pay up).

Question the third: Ditto, but for the reason that you can't institute a competition with a monetary prize that no-one can actually win?
 
eh, the tax issue I think is a personal problem, and has nothing to do with evolution/creation.

I say leave his personal life alone. nigga.
 
Re: Re: a critical look at Kent Hovind.

DangerousBeliefs said:
That's "Dr." to you!

He didn't spend 4 years at Patriot University to be called "Mr."

I perfer to call him Quack Kent Hovind, personally.

Review of Kent's dissertation

I would like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for providing that link to Quack Hovind's "Dissertation". I can honestly say I have never laughed at an academic work so heartily in my entire life. Sorry for the formal tone, but I fear if I (pffft!) don't control myself (guffaw!) I may fall off my chair again...

:dl:
 
qXdc said:
eh, the tax issue I think is a personal problem, and has nothing to do with evolution/creation.

I say leave his personal life alone. nigga.
It has to do with WHY he decided not to pay it. Hovind has no problem flaunting his private life and family in his presentations, so tough titties for him if it blows up in his face.

What's a nigga? [just a sec - googling...] http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=nigga&r=67

Oh. I see. Nice. :rolleyes:
 
Re: Re: a critical look at Kent Hovind.

-=Vagrant=- said:
Stupid question, but what program should I use to view that? When I click the link it just comes as a blur of symbols on my screen.

.wmv -> "Windows Media Video"? I guess you should be able to view it with an (up to date?) "Media Player" under Windows, or Winamp... I had no problem with "mplayer" under Linux.

Zep said:
Question the third: Ditto, but for the reason that you can't institute a competition with a monetary prize that no-one can actually win?

Wouldn't that make the $1 Million Prize illegal?
 
Re: Re: Re: a critical look at Kent Hovind.

Jellby said:
Wouldn't that make the $1 Million Prize illegal?
No. It can be won quite easily. All you have to do is scientifically show you can do something unquestionably paranormal.

What I actually meant by "a monetary prize that no-one can actually win" refers to the fact that even if you do apply, Hovind refuses to accept ANY applicants whatsoever - this has been shown year in, year out, time after time, even though the applicants clearly were quite serious and had very reasonable and reasoned responses to Hovind's challenge.

You might care to compare that with the JREF challenge - applicants are accepted happily and with reasonable regularity, and their testing is progressed as quickly as possible in each case.

In other words, Hovind's so-called challenge is not an actual competition at all. And the chances are very good that Hovind does not have (access to) the stated US$250,000 in prize money either. It's all just a self-promotion gimmick, aka advertising. The problem is that when advertising, there are usually local laws about what you can and cannot say, and your liabilities to your "consumers" from your advertising (there is a delicious story about a Californian car dealer who advertised a car for sale for "8,000 bananas" - a humourous slang term for "dollars" apparently. A prospective buyer accepted the deal, and promptly emptied a truckload of rotten bananas on the lot driveway...and drove off in his car!). My request was for someone who knows of such things to expand on what possible breaches of local regulations Hovind may be making in this regard.

Incidentally, I have actually contacted the Miami Prosecutor's office myself to discuss this - they say he is actually breaking the law (didn't say why) but they are reluctant to pin Hovind because he's a religious nut-case, and they don't usually get involved with them if they are no trouble. I gather the Miami law enforcement people have enough real crime on their plate without having to deal with cranks like Hovind - fair enough. [cue Miami Vice music!]
 
Zep said:


Oh. I see. Nice. :rolleyes:

I wouldn't get upset about that, Zep. I don't believe he meant it in a derragatory fashion.

BTW, great thread everyone. Those links were very interesting. I spent far too much time feeding my brain this morning! ;) I was not aware that AiG was a peer reviewed group. That's interesting and lends far more interest to their debate than say, 1inC's. Too bad none of those individuals come here to debate. That would truly be a learning experience!
 
Yeah, when I read that I was shocked, I thought almost all the creationist relied on all the dirty tricks that hovind uses.
 

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