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911oz Truthers are also Anti-Vaxers

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From the latest 911oz / Truth News Australia online newsletter:

Vaccine watchdog group accused of “crimes against humanity”


Our lead story tonight is the controversy over the Australian Vaccination Network, with its founder Meryl Dorey accused of “providing inaccurate and misleading information and selectively quoting research out of context to argue against vaccination”.

The controversy erupted into the public eye after an ABC Lateline report earlier this week in which Nobel prize winning immunologist Professor Peter Doherty says that “denying children vaccines is a crime against humanity”.

The accusations come from a report by The New South Wales Health Care Complaints Commission (HCCC), which also found that the AVN harassed the parents of a child who died of whooping cough last year.

In the second half I am joined by Bronwyn Hancock of the Vaccination Information Service to analyze these developments.

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- Hereward Fenton
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Check out that last website! :eek:
http://www.vaccination.inoz.com/

Vaccination Information Service will inform you primarily about the key fundamentals, indeed critical flaws, of vaccination (or "immunisation") that apply to every type of vaccine - for children, adults (travel vaccines and other) and all animals. So it applies to the swine flu vaccine, the other flu vaccines, the polio vaccine, hepatitis b vaccine, chicken pox vaccine, hpv vaccine, smallpox vaccination, anthrax vaccine, DPT and MMR vaccines, pneumonia vaccine, dog vaccination, rabies vaccination, yellow fever vaccination, etc etc.

In summary...

“Immunizations” do not immunize! They do the exact opposite

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The result of vaccination is a host of health problems, including death

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The frequency of vaccine damage may be 100 or more times higher than reported

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If 911oz and Hereward Fenton are supporting this garbage, they are also guilty of “crimes against humanity”. :mad:
 
This is the point I've been trying to make for ages. If you make Facebook friends with the anti-vaccine, anti-floride/aspartame crowd, they all take 911 conspiracies for granted. There is just an assumption that it's true and it doesn't matter what JREF says. So while thermite has been completely debunked here, there are loads of folks from this crowd who assume that AE911 represents the construction community and therefore vast numbers of engineers etc. accept this crap.

Yes, it is true they are primarily young, white, poorly-educated and under-employed. Yes, it is true they are a pretty innocuous bunch who aren't likely to do more than post on Facebook. But the idea that anything that goes on here means anything to this crowd is true.
 
Alex Jones has megaphoned some of that vaccination lore, hasn't he? I do remember one scene from one of those urgh films where he was on the streets of I think Ottawa on the occasion of a Bilderberg meeting and megaphoned into the ears of unsuspecting passerbys: "Why are you putting mercury in the vaccines of our little babies?!?!?!?!?"
 
It would be great to find a 9/11 Truther who didn't believe in any other of the regular conspiracy theories.

Although when I say "great" I mean it would be "interesting". A bit.
 
Crackpot Conspriacy Theories are like Potato Chips: It is very hard to eat just one.
 
There's a common and dangerous thread between both 9/11 truthers and anti-vaxxers. One tries to diminish national security in the name of their asinine fantasies while the other tries to destroy herd immunity.

It only takes one anti vaxxer to become the carrier of an otherwise easily defeated virus that mutates into a superbug in his bloodstream. It only takes one idiot truther who doesn't believe in the existence of islamic extremism to agree to take a package to a store in a crowded shopping mall for a muslim friend.

These morons are trying to kill people with their stupid.
 
Oh, cripes. Antivaxxers too??? :mad:

Ok, in slight, minor disagreement with SOT above: I don't actually see 9/11 conspiracy fantasy as being inherently dangerous. After all, they have zero sway and therefore have zero opportunity to degrade national security, at least in the US (can't speak for Australia, but I'd guess it's the same there). But Antivaccination advocates... yes, those people are openly harmful. And for exactly the reason SOT lists: All it takes is another Typhoid Mary type with a far harsher viral infection than Typhoid, and suddenly things go waaaaaay bad.

Truthers were merely stupid before. This, however, brings things to a whole new level. If we start seeing that here in the US, I may decide to become publicly vocal against conspiracy peddlers. I've pretty much restricted my 9/11 refutation activities to just a few places on the web, but if they take up the antivaccine banner, I may decide to expand.
 
I agree that Anti Vaxxers are a more immediate danger then the Twoofers.
And with Jenny McCarthy Getting a new show and trying to move into Ophrah's shoes it is going to be worse.
 
This is just another example of what the Hoofnagles refer to as "crank magnetism". Granted, it's not the most felicitous phrase around, but it does capture the "If you're stupid enough to fall for one conspiracy theory, you'll probably fall for others," nature of CT-thinking.
 
Brainster said:
This is just another example of what the Hoofnagles refer to as "crank magnetism". Granted, it's not the most felicitous phrase around, but it does capture the "If you're stupid enough to fall for one conspiracy theory, you'll probably fall for others," nature of CT-thinking.
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Nice term! :newlol

Thanks for the link. That led me to Hofnagles' Unified Theory of the Crank. Good stuff!
 
Brainster said:
This is just another example of what the Hoofnagles refer to as "crank magnetism". Granted, it's not the most felicitous phrase around, but it does capture the "If you're stupid enough to fall for one conspiracy theory, you'll probably fall for others," nature of CT-thinking.
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Perhaps in the way we have "electromagnetism" we could have "conspiromagnetism" or "charlatomagnetism" or just, "crank-o-magnetism". Something to help it roll off the tongue a bit better.

Any other suggestions?
 
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I'm not surprised by the title, if someone is dumb and gullible enough to fall for one big con, then why wouldn't they eventually fall for another, and another and another?
 
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