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9/11 – World Trade Center: dismantled and hollow vs “micro nukes”

Don Fox, Joe Olson and Jim Fetzer are big nuke advocates, and they square off against yours truly in this long (2-hour) discussion that eventually gets a little heated.


It's like kindergarteners arguing about what Santa does if a house doesn't have a chimney.
 
I wonder if anyone will actually sit through the whole two hours. I made it five minutes.........

It has huge support.......21 people have clicked on it so far. :rolleyes:
 
Don Fox, Joe Olson and Jim Fetzer are big nuke advocates, and they square off against yours truly in this long (2-hour) discussion that eventually gets a little heated.

https://youtu.be/12drkO0du-E

Here you go, Steve. This will take care of Fox, Olson and Fetzer arguments.

Operation Hardtack-2 - Rushmore 60528



This is a fizzle - very low yield (0.188 KT). See any of that kind of explosion on 9/11? Didn't think so ...
 
9/11 – World Trade Center: dismantled and hollow vs “micro nukes”


Well, let's see, dismantled and hollow requires hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, of New York residents and visitors to fail to notice a major engineering project in the middle of a major business district, along with tens of thousands of people faking being employed at the site, over a period measured in decades. Meanwhile, micro nukes requires a similar number of people to have missed the massive "Bang", electromagnetic pulse effects, and lingering illnesses due to radioactive contamination (again, almost measured over decades now).

Nope, sorry, I can't decide which is stupider. You'll have to up your game.
 
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Here you go, Steve. This will take care of Fox, Olson and Fetzer arguments.

Operation Hardtack-2 - Rushmore 60528



This is a fizzle - very low yield (0.188 KT). See any of that kind of explosion on 9/11? Didn't think so ...

.188KT = 188 Kg of explosives. No nuke required. It would be so small that it would not demolish the building.



9/11 – World Trade Center: dismantled and hollow vs “micro nukes”


Well, let's see, dismantled and hollow requires hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, of New York residents and visitors to fail to notice a major engineering project in the middle of a major business district, along with tens of thousands of people faking being employed at the site, over a period measured in decades. Meanwhile, micro nukes requires a similar number of people to have missed the massive "Bang", electromagnetic pulse effects, and lingering illnesses due to radioactive contamination (again, almost measured over decades now).

Nope, sorry, I can't decide which is stupider. You'll have to up your game.

You forgot the mushroom cloud. This would appear with any large explosion.
 
I wonder if anyone will actually sit through the whole two hours.

I did.

It wasn't so bad. It was an elimination-style debate which opens with the panelists seated except for Fetzer, who refused to come to the table until he was coaxed over by the promise of an extra raspberry jello if he behaves himself.

Once began, a debate question is given to the panel, the answer to which apparently involves either screaming like a monkey, sobbing hysterically or flinging their jello at one another. Olson had to be consoled and given his picture book of kittens after taking a particularly nasty jello wad to his forehead, which brought on a 36 minute round of uncontrolled babbling and howling laughter by the other panelists.

I was rather disappointed as there doesn't seem to have been a declared winner. To be eliminated apparently involved two large orderlies rushing into the debate and tackling the slowest panelist. The remaining panelists would mimic playing kazoos while the captured panelist is straightjacketed and dragged from the room. This scene is repeated until one man is left at the table, playing with a booger. I won't spoil the ending by saying who that was.

Lastly, if the mods would, the video needs an NSFW tag - their gowns don't close in the back and there's several minutes of some rather gruesome footage you won't be able to un-see anytime soon.

Thanks.
 
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