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9-11 in Britain thwarted

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'Security services foil 9/11 attack in UK' - Tue Nov 23 2004
ITV News understands that the security services have thwarted four or five September 11-style attacks on targets including Canary Wharf and Heathrow Airport.

One plot is said to have involved pilots being trained to fly into target buildings, including London's famous financial centre and the world's busiest airport.
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That's the only news I can locate on this story so far.
 
Frount page on the daily mail

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no I'm not going to buy a copy to find out the details.
 
Yeah, ITV learned about it by reading a copy of the Daily Mail. I would actually be interested in reading the full story, because I'd be prepared to bet that despite the headline, it's actually nothing of the sort. Probably someone read something on the internet about possible skyscraper targets in Britain ('Cannery' Wharf being the obvious choice), noted that nobody has yet flown an airliner into it, and concluded that the thread must have been thwarted.

It'll no doubt be full of statements from unnamed sources saying "Yes, it would have been a dreadful personal blow for Tony Blair" if that had happened".

In other words, tosh of the highest order.

I should perhaps note (in case it's not obvious) that I'm heavily biased against the Mail. It's an evil, scumbag rag.
 
Training programmes for suicide pilots who planned a spectacular attack on the financial centre were disrupted, a senior authoritative source told the Daily Mail.

Heathrow Airport was another high-profile target for a possible simultaneous strike, it was also reported.

There were no details of when or where the plot was uncovered, or how close the fanatics were to success.
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Bloody tabloid journalists :rolleyes:

(From the Mail Online )
 
Isn't Blair floating the idea of new anti-terrorism laws for after the election? Is it just me or do other people notice that "conspiricies" are uncovered just when they will do the most good?
 
Ed said:
Isn't Blair floating the idea of new anti-terrorism laws for after the election? Is it just me or do other people notice that "conspiricies" are uncovered just when they will do the most good?
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You are correct.

So far I have seen no evidence of anything other than the most half baked and fanciful conspiracies. There have been a large number of anti terrorism raids but these have led to very few indictments. There are a number anti terrorism cases pending but nothing has come to court so far.
 
A conspiracy of half-baked conspiracies?

That's a pretty big conspiracy theory...
 
Ed said:
Isn't Blair floating the idea of new anti-terrorism laws for after the election? Is it just me or do other people notice that "conspiricies" are uncovered just when they will do the most good?
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A nice lead-in for the Queen's Speech, which announces the next bunch of Government policies. And lo - there was a lot of extra security stuff in it.

Fancy the Mail being the Government's mouthpiece :D
 
It does raise the question of how we measure the effectiveness of security measures.

If something happens, then the security measures were not efficient enough.

If something does not happen, then the security measures are deemed not necessary, even too draconian.
 
CFLarsen said:
It does raise the question of how we measure the effectiveness of security measures.

If something happens, then the security measures were not efficient enough.

If something does not happen, then the security measures are deemed not necessary, even too draconian.
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You can’t really measure it. It is a one sided result. I think Gilovich did a chapter on it in "how we know what isn’t so" looking at using SAT (?) scores as judge of success at college in America. The problem is you never know how the ones that don’t go to college would have done.
 
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