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9/11: Impossible Speed & Impact Busted!

Fake

All the evidence in that video is faked by NWO Kitty as part of the coverup.

You shill.
 
More evidence that 9/11 crackpots can provide logical, evidence-based arguments when they're criticizing others in the truth movement. (He lost me at the DU part, though!)

The video's author is a member of this forum: only made a few posts IIRC. Search for "This is an orange."

Edit: Anthony Lawson. He didn't stick around after his controlled demolition claims were mocked. http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3090642&postcount=811
 
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Sorry for being a bit thick but what was that bit at the end about Depleated Uranium nose and wing tips. Watched that bit a few times and couldn't decide if the video was advocating DU or not.....
 
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PB2007 said:
Sorry for being a bit thick but what was that bit at the end about Depleated Uranium nose and wing tips. Watched that bit a few times and couldn't decide if the video was advocating DU or not.....
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Depleted uranium (U-238) was used in armor piercing sabots from US tanks and the 30mm gatling on the A-10 because its increased density (and a fiery effect on impact). I haven't seen the video, but would presume the reference to depleted uranium was probably to infer that it was used (as in a modification of the airframe) to aid the aircraft in penetrating the outer wall.
 
DU counter-weights have been used in aircraft. Granted, he did some strange hand waving there and I didn't quite get what he was insinuating.

beachnut said:
Nut case takes on nut cases; this guy is a CD truth dolt.
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Meh. If they self-debunk at least JREF might be spared some of the more mundane and often debunked myths from yet again resurfacing. Not to mention the humorous qualities of the more inane truthers fighting amongst themselves.
 
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soylent said:
DU counter-weights have been used in aircraft. Granted, he did some strange hand waving there and I didn't quite get what he was insinuating.

Meh. If they self-debunk at least JREF might be spared some of the more mundane and often debunked myths from yet again resurfacing. Not to mention the humorous qualities of the more inane truthers fighting amongst themselves.
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The nut case is trying to blame 9/11 on someone other than 19 terrorist. I am sorry, he is not a nut case, he is someone who tries to make up lies about 9/11 to blame others.

You are right, C-141s and other planes use DU in the flight control system as counter weights. But the "nut case" guy was trying to bring doubt on the terrorist doing the deed. He brings up new stupid ideas about some mythical du nosed Airliner with leading edges of DU.
 
Welcome to the forum Soylent.

Is your favorite color green?

TAM;)
 
T.A.M. said:
Welcome to the forum Soylent.

Is your favorite color green?

TAM;)
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soylent said:
DU counter-weights have been used in aircraft. Granted, he did some strange hand waving there and I didn't quite get what he was insinuating.
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That may be true, but the vid claimed use in the nosecone and the wings leading edges. Which to me doesn't exactly make the supposition any more plausible, IMHO, but I don't think he was genuinely suggesting it as reality. More that an airplane can be turned into a bunker busting sort of contraption if those modifications were made.

I'd luuuv for the aeronautic types here to fill me in on how messed up a 767's handling would be if someone genuinely filled the nose and leading edges (I'll leave it up in the air how much of the wing constitues the leading edge) with DU. :)

soylent said:
Meh. If they self-debunk at least JREF might be spared some of the more mundane and often debunked myths from yet again resurfacing. Not to mention the humorous qualities of the more inane truthers fighting amongst themselves.
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I don't know if any of them even pay attention to debunkings within the so-called truth movement. The existence of counterarguments doesn't seem to keep members from trotting out the same myths over and over again.
 
ElMondoHummus said:
That may be true, but the vid claimed use in the nosecone and the wings leading edges. Which to me doesn't exactly make the supposition any more plausible, IMHO, but I don't think he was genuinely suggesting it as reality. More that an airplane can be turned into a bunker busting sort of contraption if those modifications were made.

I'd luuuv for the aeronautic types here to fill me in on how messed up a 767's handling would be if someone genuinely filled the nose and leading edges (I'll leave it up in the air how much of the wing constitues the leading edge) with DU. :)
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DU in the wings....heh. I like it. Beats the heck out of Kirkmans titanium winged "ex-military bad boys" powered by engines two thrust classes lower than would be required by the aluminum winged version non-bad boy. I miss Malcolm sometimes....good times.
 
apathoid said:
DU in the wings....heh. I like it. Beats the heck out of Kirkmans titanium winged "ex-military bad boys" powered by engines two thrust classes lower than would be required by the aluminum winged version non-bad boy. I miss Malcolm sometimes....good times.
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Heh... I missed that one. Titanium, huh? I can't imagine how either soft or brittle something as large as an airplane wing would be if it were truly made out of that metal. Too many people don't reallize titanium's limitations. Heck, I didn't used to, until I decided to Google-research (as opposed to in-depth research :D) the idea of titanium swords; turns out that it's not a great metal for weaponry. Never knew that before.

So why was I looking up titanium swords? Well... umm... :whistling
 
ElMondoHummus said:
Heh... I missed that one. Titanium, huh? I can't imagine how either soft or brittle something as large as an airplane wing would be if it were truly made out of that metal. Too many people don't reallize titanium's limitations. Heck, I didn't used to, until I decided to Google-research (as opposed to in-depth research :D) the idea of titanium swords; turns out that it's not a great metal for weaponry. Never knew that before.

So why was I looking up titanium swords? Well... umm... :whistling
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Titanium is used in commercial aircraft, however in small amounts in areas that require the sort of strength it provides. The F-14 used titanium for its wing box and box beams. It's difficult to work with and very expensive. That's why you don't see it used for that sort of thing on commercial jets. It's really not needed, aluminum does the job just fine.
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong...but DU armored nose-cone and wingtips would be awfully heavy, wouldn't they? It seems that putting enough DU to act as a shield on the leading surfaces of any aircraft would make it...well...pretty much a rock with wings. It just seems that even the suggestion of DU armored airlplanes is pretty much self debunking right from the start...:confused:
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong...but DU armored nose-cone and wingtips would be awfully heavy, wouldn't they? It seems that putting enough DU to act as a shield on the leading surfaces of any aircraft would make it...well...pretty much a rock with wings. It just seems that even the suggestion of DU armored airlplanes is pretty much self debunking right from the start...:confused:
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Yes to would be heavy. In order to counteract the shift in CG you would have to install weight aft of the wings. Making the aircraft even heavier.

It seems they don't understand if you get something moving fast enough something soft like a bird can damage or even bring down an aircraft.
 
ElMondoHummus said:
Heh... I missed that one. Titanium, huh? I can't imagine how either soft or brittle something as large as an airplane wing would be if it were truly made out of that metal. Too many people don't reallize titanium's limitations. Heck, I didn't used to, until I decided to Google-research (as opposed to in-depth research :D) the idea of titanium swords; turns out that it's not a great metal for weaponry. Never knew that before.

So why was I looking up titanium swords? Well... umm... :whistling
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The SR-71 was made with lots of Titanium; it seemed to get stronger as it aged.
 
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