51 Operations to Look like a Dead Person

[Foolmewunz]

Two hundred thousand pounds (that's, uh, quite a few US dollars) and 51 procedures, and she looks "just like Nefertiti". Yeah, with about two hundred bucks worth of makeup on, she does. Without it, she looks like a zombie with a pucker up kiss-me mouth.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...1-operations-turn-mother-Queen-Nefertiti.html

And she's trying out for the All Woo Team, and will probably be made captain! She did it because she believes she's the actual reincarnation!

'Aged 23 I underwent psychoanalysis with a counsellor. Slowly I began to realise that I was having these dreams because I am a reincarnation of Nefertiti.

 

[TragicMonkey]

Okay, not only was she pretty before...but after all that surgery, she still doesn't look a thing like Nefertiti.

Why do people who claim to remember past lives always happen to turn out to be someone famous back then? Nobody ever says "I remember perfectly! I was an undistinguished fisherman!" It's always Napoleon or the Queen of Sheba, never Napoleon's tailor or the girl who fed the donkeys.

 

[Foolmewunz]

Okay, not only was she pretty before...but after all that surgery, she still doesn't look a thing like Nefertiti.

Why do people who claim to remember past lives always happen to turn out to be someone famous back then? Nobody ever says "I remember perfectly! I was an undistinguished fisherman!" It's always Napoleon or the Queen of Sheba, never Napoleon's tailor or the girl who fed the donkeys.

I think if you get your therapy from the Free Clinic, you get to be a busboy or fishmonger, but if you pay good money for a downtown therapist, you get a quality entity. It's just good business.

Can you imagine the paucity of return trade if it was known that a Mayfair or Beverly Hills shrink had discovered previous lives as a bookkeeper in St. Louis in the 1840s?

"Oh, Sissy! Don't go to Dr. Taylor. Buffy went there last month and she found out that she was a rice farmer from 16th century Java. Why I went to that new therapist on Wilshire Blvd and he told me I was Joan of Arc. He's expensive, mind you, but he gives memories that are worth it."

 

[ChrisC]

And to think I gave myself a hard time for buying a side of onion rings the other day. What a bizarre way to blow that much money. The woman's statements in the article give me the impression she would be an absolute bore and a generally awful person to have to spend any time with.

 

[davefoc]

Okay, not only was she pretty before...but after all that surgery, she still doesn't look a thing like Nefertiti.

Why do people who claim to remember past lives always happen to turn out to be someone famous back then? Nobody ever says "I remember perfectly! I was an undistinguished fisherman!" It's always Napoleon or the Queen of Sheba, never Napoleon's tailor or the girl who fed the donkeys.

Because powerful, famous people have stronger energy fields which is a key to being able to bring their memories forward to their new body. People who have led mundane, run-of-the-mill lives have weak energy fields that aren't strong enough to allow past memories to be retained when they are reincarnated.

On a different topic, what kind of restrictions, if any, should the government place on plastic surgeons as to performing surgery on people who have self destructive goals with respect to the plastic surgery they seek? In this specific case, should the kind of surgery this woman has undergone be legal? Does the failure of the surgery to actually make her look like Nerfertiti, suggest that the surgeon was not clear enough about the limitations of his capabilities and as such should he be held liable in some way for this mess?

 

[scratchy]

What happens when people lay claims to the same dead celebrity? Its bound to happen if such stupidity is common enough.

 

[Madalch]

She needs much more serious psychoanalysis. Nearly half a million dollars to look that ugly?

 

[davefoc]

What happens when people lay claims to the same dead celebrity? Its bound to happen if such stupidity is common enough.

Obviously, really powerful celebrities have very powerful energy fields that are used occasionally to drive their essence into more than one physical embodiment at a time.

 

[Toke]

Obviously, really powerful celebrities have very powerful energy fields that are used occasionally to drive their essence into more than one physical embodiment at a time.

That sounds sensible, at least it explains the number of napoleons.

 

[Comrade Raptor]

Okay, not only was she pretty before...but after all that surgery, she still doesn't look a thing like Nefertiti.

Why do people who claim to remember past lives always happen to turn out to be someone famous back then? Nobody ever says "I remember perfectly! I was an undistinguished fisherman!" It's always Napoleon or the Queen of Sheba, never Napoleon's tailor or the girl who fed the donkeys.

I once found a picture in a WW2 book of an anonymous German soldier in a halftrack on the Eastern front who looked just like me.

Does that count?

 

[Epok]

No one believes I am almost 50 years old and have had three children because my body and face look as through I am only 25.

I certainly believe. The only photo where she does look like Nefertiti is the one that has been touched up more than a Playboy Centerfold.

But Davefoc you mentioned if it should be legal for this woman to be able to have operations like that. Why shouldn't it be legal? She's not hurting anybody except her own credibility. That would seem fascist to me to try make laws against it while in my personal opinion it is silly to go through all of that just because you have dreams of a past life. That wouldn't be much different than passing laws for religious reasons and aren't we supposed to be getting past that?

 

[DC]

like a death person?
cmon, even the Grim Reaper himself would flee from her.

 

[Singularitarian]

She look more like Alvin, the chipmunk.

 

[Mojo]

What happens when people lay claims to the same dead celebrity? Its bound to happen if such stupidity is common enough.

As I've said before, this would make a really great "reality TV" show. Just get a dozen reincarnations of, say, Cleopatra, lock them up in the Big Brother house, and film the results.

 

[Rolfe]

But Davefoc you mentioned if it should be legal for this woman to be able to have operations like that. Why shouldn't it be legal? She's not hurting anybody except her own credibility. That would seem fascist to me to try make laws against it....

Laws, no. But I'd dearly love to know what the medical ethics committees think of this one.

Rolfe.

 

[Ryokan]

Okay, not only was she pretty before...but after all that surgery, she still doesn't look a thing like Nefertiti.

That was my thought as well.

 

[Darth Rotor]

I once found a picture in a WW2 book of an anonymous German soldier in a halftrack on the Eastern front who looked just like me.

Does that count?

Guy Sajer, is that you?

 

[davefoc]

Laws, no. But I'd dearly love to know what the medical ethics committees think of this one.

Rolfe.

This seems like an issue with some gray area. I tend to have libertarian views and my leaning in this particular case is similar to Epok's. But if I was on a hospital's medical ethics board would I have voted to allow this kind of procedure? What about the guy that had Satan like horns implanted, or the women that get massive breast implants? And all that overlaps with the people that are relentlessly pursuing some unachievable personal appearance goal with relentless surgeries (people with body dysmorphic disorder)?

I'm a little surprised that is possible to get some of those kind of surgeries done. It certainly seems plausible that one can find individual surgeons that would do them, but I would have thought that hospitals would not assume the liability for some of this stuff by letting it go forward in their facilities.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

So even if you believed in this reincarnation nonsense, wouldn't something like this be contrary to the "plan" or whatever? Usually they talk about needing to learn some lesson and move on.

This is unhealthy even in woo terms!

This seems like an issue with some gray area. I tend to have libertarian views and my leaning in this particular case is similar to Epok's. But if I was on a hospital's medical ethics board would I have voted to allow this kind of procedure?

I think there are a number of ethical problems with this. She probably wasn't mentally sound enough to make such a decision. (Libertarian or not, you wouldn't let a depressed person choose assisted suicide, would you? Or encourage a delusional person to jump off a roof to prove that he can fly?) Even if she were mentally sound, there are the opportunity costs of wasting the medical resources. Someone who was disfigured by a land mine, for example, is more deserving of those resources.

 

[Epok]

Being as she claims to be the reincarnation of Nefertiti I'm sure many doctors would say she is not of sound mind. But at least in America and many other countries its hard to have someone diagnosed as clinically insane/unsound because of religious beliefs that aren't of a violent nature. Although that is a good point to bring up, does a surgeon have the right to refuse her request?