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2012: What if nothing happens?

Bram Kaandorp

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Yet another 2012 thread.

No news article, just me looking at something.

This question kept me busy for a while because, like the Camping débâcles, I wondered whether people might have excuses ready for when nothing happens.

So I came to this site:

http://www.maya12-21-2012.com/spiritualwhatif.html

An excerpt for your convenience:

Is it possible for some to ascend while others get left behind without any recollection of what has happened?

It's within the realm of possibility that every person will get exactly what they want. Those who live in negativity might be saying, "See, I told you the Mayan calendar was BS*!" while those who have remained positive would be saying, "I never knew 5D Earth would be this beautiful!" Both could exist on the same plane, but in different dimensions.

*Censored

I looked up "5d Earth", and found out that it's basically a human upgrade of consciousness.


It also says:

But what if "nothing" literally happens?

Something will have already happened, even if "nothing" happens. People who believe in the December 21 2012 end date are consciously trying to make this world a better place through thoughts, intentions and good deeds. That, too, will change the world. Through global consciousness and the awakening process, we will continue to create our own destiny, whether it's through ideas such as The Venus Project or through tearing down the walls of indifference as a global society.

Change is inevitable. We can either create change or allow others to create it for us.


As if we can't do that now already. If only these people would put their effort into trying to get the changes across now, in stead of waiting for some magical event to do it for them.


The overall thought of the person behind the site is that, if you don't believe, then you won't perceive the differences.

Call me crazy, but isn't that what we call confirmation bias? A very weak attempt at an explanation.

I particularly like the "Something will have already happened" bit, just like when Camping said that "It will happen, guaranteed".

Right, that was enough for now. It's a bit sad, but what I posted is entirely representative of what I've read when I was still in the woo.

Cheers all, I'm off to get some sleep.
 
Not sure if it's confirmation bias,but they're definitely giving themselves an out. I'm sure there's some fancy name for that.
 
"See, I told you the Mayan calendar was BS*!" while those who have remained positive would be saying, "I never knew 5D Earth would be this beautiful!"

But what if I try to be positive but I think the Mayan calendar is BS (the claims associated with it, not the calendar itself)?

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A thought occurs (dangerous I know, sorry).

If the 5d Earth thing was true and people living positively go up and 'ascend' to there, I think the people left behind wouldn't be saying that the Mayan calender was BS, considering on December 21, 2012, it would appear to us that millions of people suddenly vanished. Unless there saying that very very few people are going to make it to the 5d Earth thing.
 
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It will be a spritual or conciousness raising or a new era that will slowly unfold over the coming decades, etc. etc. etc.

We've been hearing and reading the excueses of the prophets for as long as people have been pulling predictions out of their tuckhus.
 
What if Lynx 2012 deoderant "final edition" is not final?
What if the world floods because of neutrinos like in the film?


What if we all think of the stay puffed marshmellow man?
 
Oh something interesting is going to happen, just not what the vast majority of people with concerns about 2012 will be expecting
 
2112... yeah, that would be something.

Not far off the mark, though.

In pagan circles the coming of the age of aquarius (no, not the song, but the astrological "event") and the mayan 2012 "event are equivocated, making for some amusing Q & A.

Forum member: "In 2012 the mayan prophesy says that the age of aquarius will begin, and people will gain a new kind of consciousness"
Me: "But isn't the age of aquarius actually due in about 600 years?
Forum member: "yes, but we are already feeling the changes, and besides, it WILL happen on 2012"


Covering themselves by saying that:

1. the "event" has a broad area of influence, and we already feel it coming
2. the actual moment at which everyone will feel it will be 2012

This is what I call covering all bases. And they wouldn't have to if there was anything to it, right?
 
Oh something interesting is going to happen, just not what the vast majority of people with concerns about 2012 will be expecting

I guess there will be several 2012 skeptical parties, and the believers will shout that "see? the skeptics are changing as well. They are celebrating the beginning of the new age".

And if we don't have parties, they will simply say that we "just won't feel anything".

Sorry for sounding bitter, but really, how many times can someone want to have their cake and eat it too?
 
"What if nothing happens?".

Well 'things' always happen. To paraphrase Tim Minchin; To place significance on things happening is to seriously underestimate the amount of 'things' there are.
 
"What if nothing happens?".

Well 'things' always happen. To paraphrase Tim Minchin; To place significance on things happening is to seriously underestimate the amount of 'things' there are.

Exactly.

The same thing happens when people say that "coincidence doesn't exist", because at some point in their life they were saved at just the right time from being hit by a truck when they were crossing the road.

People who study "fate" are only studying those things to which they attribute significance.

If two people on entirely different continents were to sneeze at exactly the same time, then there still won't be any researcher going there to see what significance it has, regardless of how awesome it might be to know that it happened.
 
it is an alternative similar to "tail I win, head you lose". Last time I used such a reasoning i was a child and was trying to convince my sis to give me some of her teddy bear. That remind me also of the philosophical "brain in the vat" problem, whereas you have no way to know if you are a brain in the vat. By the description, you have no way to know if something happened : either you were too weak and had subconscious negativity => you are left behind in the normal world whereas the rest go 5D, or nothing happened. But you have no way to know which is which. And the ultimate alternative, is to declare victory anyway because you somehow changed people by making them pay attention to your own woo.
 
#11 "Thou shalt not kid thyself."

Too bad it was on the scroll he dropped. :D
 

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