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13 victims, ages 2 to 29, kept shackled by parents

MikeG said:
I'm guessing mental health issues are more likely.
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Further confirmation from the grandparents:

Grandparents say 'God called' on Perris couple to have so many children

James and Betty Turpin, who live in West Virginia, said David and Louise had so many children because "God called on them."

They were given "very strict homeschooling," and would memorize long passages in the Bible, the grandparents said. Some children tried to memorize it in its entirety.

While David and Louise were in the Pentecostal faith, they did not have a church in the area and David's parents knew of no friends that the couple had.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentecostalism

My own impression of Pentecostalism is that it is a particularly "fundamentalist" flavor of Protestantism. Known for their "speaking in tongues" among other things. Faith healing too.
 
Over a dozen kids, overbearing parents who think squalor and torture is the correct way to raise children; certainly sounds like one of those quiver-full cells. But, there's still a chance it isn't.

Particularly sad that they were all so malnourished and emaciated the police initially thought they were all literally children while 7 of them were actually adults.

ETA: hadn't seen the above post yet. So yes, a quiver-full cell.
 
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Checkmite said:
Over a dozen kids, overbearing parents who think squalor and torture is the correct way to raise children; certainly sounds like one of those quiver-full cells. But, there's still a chance it isn't.

Particularly sad that they were all so malnourished and emaciated the police initially thought they were all literally children while 7 of them were actually adults.

ETA: hadn't seen the above post yet. So yes, a quiver-full cell.
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What does this mean? I've never heard the term.
 
Puppycow said:
My own impression of Pentecostalism is that it is a particularly "fundamentalist" flavor of Protestantism. Known for their "speaking in tongues" among other things. Faith healing too.
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I think they are not technically fundamentalist; they're not big on strictly following the laws in Leviticus, more happy-clappy and into, as you say, glossolalia and faith healing; experiencing God directly based on the New Testament, not following the rules in the Old. There's also quite a wide range of Pentecostalism, and it's more of a movement within established churches rather than a separate church itself.
 
Quiver-full is a cult philosophy that takes an out-of-context bible quote about how people with lots of children are lucky and blessed, and interprets it as a command by God for married couples to continuously produce children until God indicates that they have enough in his opinion by stopping the female-vessel-woman-object from conceiving anymore.

These families have lots of children - a dozen is not at all an unusual number - and they typically feature a husband-father as lord,wife and children as obedient and subservient family dynamic; usually homeschool because public schools are the devil's monkey-bars; have strict rules regarding the children's peer relationships and sex lives; and typically saddle the older children with raising the younger ones because it's simply too many children for a mother to handle all by herself.
 
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The family group photos don't show emaciated, growth-stunted people who are shackled to a bed all day. What's the story?
 
William Parcher said:
The family group photos don't show emaciated, growth-stunted people who are shackled to a bed all day. What's the story?
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They look growth stunted, there certainly do not seem to be 7 adults in that picture. At least half of the children in that picture are over 18. They look like young teens, that is exactly the growth stunting that made the first article say that a 17 year old looks 10.
 
Argumemnon said:
Yeah but I don't remember which passage of the bible tells people to chain their kids. Maybe they're just insane.
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Well it is better than stoning them to death. So if they had simply done that then no one could claim it wasn't properly biblical.
 
William Parcher said:
The family group photos don't show emaciated, growth-stunted people who are shackled to a bed all day. What's the story?
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It's difficult to say but some of them are well into their 20's and yet their frames look like those of children (the faces are not visible in the pictures on the BBC). Some of that may be due to the way in which they are dressed however.
 
Argumemnon said:
Yeah but I don't remember which passage of the bible tells people to chain their kids. Maybe they're just insane.
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Isn't there one about obeying your parents ? Maybe they were being wilful in expressing opinions their parents didn't like and so the parents applied Old Testament flavour "tough love".
 
Captain_Swoop said:
So, where were the Grandparents? were they 'in on it'?
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On the other side of the country by the sound of it.

"David Turpin's parents, James and Betty Turpin, told ABC News they were 'surprised and shocked' at the allegations.

The couple, who live in West Virginia, said they had not visited the family for four or five years but had spoken to them on the phone, although not with their grandchildren. "



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fagin said:
On the other side of the country by the sound of it.

"David Turpin's parents, James and Betty Turpin, told ABC News they were 'surprised and shocked' at the allegations.

The couple, who live in West Virginia, said they had not visited the family for four or five years but had spoken to them on the phone, although not with their grandchildren. "
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Didn't speak with their grandchildren for years? You can tell that they care.
 
I learned about the full quiver when reading about Mormons when the Malheur occupation was happening. Enormous families.
 
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