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To help oz and Jango keep their discussion next door clean, I propose us bystanders comment mostly here. Thanks to oz for OPing this! http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=292837 :popcorn1 :popcorn2 :popcorn1:

Statement #1 - Building collapse is the result of multiples and successive structural failures that occur at a certain period of time. The collapse (global or partial) occurs when the structure (or part of it) becomes no longer able to support the loads. Statement #2 - Fire can cause structural...

We often hear from truthers who swear that the idea of the steel weakening and then the buildings (wtc1, 2 and 7) collapsing is just not possible. Yet we have numerous examples from other building fires that unprotected steeel, and even fireproofed steel can and will fail during regular fires...

I have asked the bolded question below of several truthers in the JREF across multiple threads. I have yet to get a response, let alone an attempt to answer. At this point I can only assume that it cannot be answered. I decided to put the question in it's own thread so I'm not spamming in...

Any model of the WTC 1 collapse initiation or progression sequence should be based on a carefully prepared list of observations. The following features were observed for WTC 1: (Links fixed) Ejection from 75th Fl, E Side During AA11 Impact Damage to Basement and Lobby Fire, Smoke Ejections as...

Came across this video posted on the Straight Dope message boards. At 19:57 you can see the remains of the core still standing in the dust cloud, part of it falls to the left, and then the remainder collapses down, disappearing from view about 20:09. I'm not 100% up on all the collapse videos...

Hello, I would like to encourage anyone holding the view/opinion/belief that that attacks of September 11th 2001 on WTC1, WTC 2, and the pentagon where a covert operation/inside job by the Bush admin/Mossad/C.I.A/ N.W.O/I.R.A/K.A.O.S/C.O.N.T.R.O.L to rationalize the following - succinctly and...

Trying to argue that the amount of demolitions needed to destroy the twin towers would have taken to long to plant and rig is a logical stalemate. If a plane slamming into WTC 1 & 2 was enough to make them fall, then no explosives were needed. If explosives needed to be planted, then any...

Salma Hayek stepped out of the shower flushed and wet. Her tiny waist accentuated the … “Corazon” she interrupted, “I’ve been wondering. If explosives had been planted in the Twin Towers, exactly where were they placed and how much. All I’ve been able to find is that Tony Szamboti claims...

WTC1,2 COLLAPSE SEQUENCE ONE -Exterior Columns Collapse. As proven by the following visual evidence, initial failure began with exterior columns progressively bending and then collapsing . No explosives expulsion. 1A. Pictures progressive buckling WTC2 columns...

Hello. Why dont we do a World Trade Center in a virtual world like Second Life or similar programs but with a moving background scenary of the plane krasches, then the fires and the collaps (explosions) of the buildings. Like a virtual movie of the catastrofy with a time line through the event...

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe pp.7-31 (25) Authors: Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven E. Jones, Kevin R. Ryan, Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James R. Gourley, Bradley R. Larsen doi...

How many tons of explosives would it take to take down the Twin Towers? And if demolitions were planted how come nobody noticed anything?

Until I saw this video I thought video fakery was ridiculous http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yjQmxS-DpyM but this video proves it beyond a shadow of a doubt. You can actually see 30 feet of the gash in the North Tower being pencilled in!

Published in "The Environmentalist" and archived here, this article questions the "high levels of volatile organic chemicals as well as unusual species that had never been seen before in structure fires" found at the WTC site. It's not hard to see where they're going with this. I expect the...

I can't believe this thread still exists, much less is still stickied. Whoever believes that either of the WTC buildings came down because of "fire" is either utterly misinformed, is paid or pressured to propagate this nonsense, or is so completely devout in sticking to a certain, hilariously...

It seems many JREF members have faint ideas what strain energy is. This may explain many misunderstandings of the WTC destructions. So here we go: From NIST report - NISTNCSTAR1-6D chapter 5.2 - we learn: "The aircraft impacted the north wall of WTC 1 at 8:46 a.m. … between Floor 93 and Floor...

Any on constructive and on topic comments or criticisms are welcome. NIST's Magic Bullet The file is fairly large so it might take a minute or two to download.

In another thread Dictator Cheney, in an attempt to show that firefighters know there were bombs in the towers, wrote: So this thread is for him or any other truther to list the names of firefighters on the scene who believe it was bombs that caused the towers to collapse and killed hundreds...

My latest submission to the Journal of 9/11 Studies. ...more truth from a "truther".

A model for the collapses and energy analyses based on them have been provided by Bazant and Le in their now infamous “Simple Analysis” article. Gordon Ross has elaborated on these models and analyses to try and make them more realistic and concludes that the collapses would have arrested. While...

What is the official science paper that describes the science of the twin towers collapse? I think i am correct in saying that the NIST did not describe the actual collapse, they described why the collapse would initiate, and then just said that it was a 'pancake collapse' or progressive...

In order to not pollute the original thread by delving into a specific sub-topic with a number of replies by non-conspiracists, I am starting a new thread. In the thread "Twoofers Only:", Jhunter asks Conspiracy Theorists to list some of the things about which they believe Gravy is...

As the NIST report rests on the Bazant & Zhou (2002) is the place to start in taking apart the official theory of "collapse" in WTC twin tower on 9/11. The paper is here: http://www.civil.northwestern.edu/people/bazant/PDFs/Papers/405.pdf Point 1 This paper was "rapid communication". It...

LCF has a new hero pushing what I believe to be a new CD theory for WTC1 & WTC2. Mods, If this has already been posted please pull it. http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=18745&st=0&#entry14674183 Conclusions If one concedes that the Twin Towers were...

I have never seen a substantive debunker response to the 503 oral histories gathered by the FDNY in the months after 9/11. Taken together, these long-suppressed witness accounts corroborate controlled demolition of the Twin Towers. Histories...

After doing a bit of research the last days, here are some thoughts on why the jet fuel fireballs on sublevel B4 and in the lobby of WTC 1 could be so destructive. The keyword is backdraft. The burning jet fuel cascading/raining down the elevator shafts of car number 6,7 and 50 would consume...

A real "mass conspiracy" so to speak. Rather tedious reading, but constructive comments would be appreciated. Mass and Potential Energy of World Trade Center Tower 1

I was reading, as I am occasionally wont to do, over at the Screw Loose Change blog and I came across a post there, wherein a truther was making this oft-heard claim: Which we hear quite a bit, and I know we've timed it and we know it's not accurate. It's one of those long-debunked staples of...

I was over at the Pilots for Truth forum, and I couldn't help but notice one guy's argument: that since so much of the mass of the Twin Towers was ejected outside of their footprints, it had to have been a Controlled Demolition. It's interesting, because...weren't these guys once under the...