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  1. catsmate

    Some music for the day

    The classic: 1gmgwx77osw A different take on that war: nJDgf-Tvqig n-hA1GuPk54 And, because I saw a reference to BHP in the news: 8PCMTSK-Zyc
  2. L

    Seeking any news on John Wheeler lll

    Unable to post links as of yet. There seems to be a news blackout on this one. Thank you for any news from non-woo sites. lily
  3. Puppycow

    Hindsight clarifies that Vietnam was a really bad war

    Current events hook: Vietnam, US hold first ever defense talks A few comments about the war and subsequent history: Hindsight clarifies that the side we were helping was the bad guys. It might have been an honest mistake, but it is true nonetheless. I mean, these were people who admired...
  4. Puppycow

    The Korean War and Vietnam in Hindsight

    In hindsight, given what a human tragedy as well as security threat North Korea has been for decades, it seems like we should have fought the war until it was finished, if victory was possible. However, I don't know how much more it would have taken to win the war. I shudder to think about what...
  5. Puppycow

    Ugh. The Nation goes after McCain with POW/MIA coverup CT

    This could have gone in the conspiracy theories forum, but The Nation has seen fit to give space in its pages to a bizarre conspiracy theory about an alleged coverup by the pentagon of POW/MIAs left in Vietnam with help from John McCain and John Kerry. I had a vague notion that they were better...
  6. iAmerican

    For the Murder of JFK: I Accuse Rome's Fifth Column

    No "new" clues are needed to determine who assassinated President Kennedy, or why, 120 G.I.'s deaths into Vietnam and six weeks after he ordered our military's withdrawal from Rome's tiny South East Asian "latifundial" estate(NSAM263), where the five percent Roman Catholic elite, on whose behalf...
  7. M

    Did the US support Pol Pot?

    Did the US support Pol Pot, one of the worst criminals in human history? I thought the US already did a bad job ( i.e. crime ) in funneling Vietnam war in the Sixties and Seventies, but I did not expect that the supported one of the worst genocide in recent human history The Times editorial of...
  8. headscratcher4

    Bush gets Purple Heart...

    Sort of. But I agree with Bush, however, hehasn't earned it... From Dan Fromkin's Washington Post column: Washingtion Briefing...back in late April... Bush Gets a Purple Heart -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joyce May writes in the Cove...
  9. Mephisto

    BUSH: "Timeline will give enemies victory"

    He can't define what constitutes victory for our troops in Iraq, but apparently knows that the Dems plan to withdraw constitutes victory for "our enemies." Let's see, attacking with relative impunity, choosing when and where to attack, using improvised explosives and small arms to hold off...
  10. steverino

    Bush finally serving in Vietnam.

    http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/17/bush.asia.ap/index.html
  11. S

    Salted Peanuts Memo may be Guiding Bush on Iraq

    Woodward (book) and others allege Kisisinger has provided W. with a copy of his salted peanuts Memo as a recommendation for dealing with Iraq. http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20061001/index.htm The full text of the Salted Peanuts Memorandum can be found here...
  12. Hardenbergh

    Vietnam vet calls New Orleans 'another war zone'

    I'm not sure that I would compare the war in Vietnam with Hurricane Katrina but I guess that was his impression as there was more visible destruction over a large area. The war in Vietnam lasted nine years but its aftereffects are still being felt. Vietnam Vet
  13. Ryokan

    US and Vietnam

    I just watched The Tonight Show, and Jane Fonda was there as a guest. She was, of course, asked about her role during the Vietnam war, and everyone involved perpetuated the truth that 'USA had no reason to be in Vietnam, and ending the war was a good thing'. Now, I'm not an American, and wasn't...
  14. D

    New Vietnam --- America Defeated Again

    But you're all in denial, obviously. Spookily accurate, no?
  15. H

    Vietnam outcome from the Vietnamese perspective

    OK so I got this idea from the other long thread about Vietnam. Many people posted that from the American perspective, the Vietnam War was a total waste because our objectives were not accomplished and we retreated, and the communists took over. However I think if you look at it from teh...
  16. N

    To Fear Jane Fonda Is To Fear Ourselves

    Earlier this year The Nation featured a pair of good articles debunking some commonly-held (but false) beliefs about Jane Fonda. I had intended to mention these articles at the time, thinking it might be of interest in light of election-year attempts to link Kerry with Fonda, but did not get...
  17. Matabiri

    Vietnam (sorry)

    Recently caught a Swift Boat advert, consisting of Kerry's voice reciting the various alleged war-crimes of US soldiers in Vietnam, while various people accused him of prolonging the war/whatever. I was trying to work out exactly what their point was - if they had one. My question is, do people...
  18. J

    Are people who died in Vietnam "Draft Dodgers"

    In another thread, http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45800 , about halfway down the first page, someone suggests, apparently seriously, that Kerry was a draft dodger using the logic that "Kerry fits into the draft dodger category as well. He didn't serve a...
  19. Z

    Liberals & using Vietnam

    Kerry Criticizes Cheney for Avoiding Vietnam War - Thu Sep 2, 8:31 PM ET. I thought back in the day liberals applauded people for not going to fight in 'Nam....now Liberals use it to smear them....;)
  20. N

    Al Gore in Vietnam

  21. a_unique_person

    Millions died in Vietnam

    I have used this figure before, and pilloried for it. http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapcf/05/06/vietnam.giap/index.html Now, CNN is not the be all and end all of sources, but it is pretty conservative (from my point of view), and I find this figure to be a minimum. There may be a million...
  22. a_unique_person

    Vietnam and Iraq

    Time to bite the bullet. Will the war in Iraq fail because the US government tied the hands of the military for stupid, political reasons, and because the liberal press wants Dubya to fail? Time will tell.
  23. RandFan

    Comparisons of Iraq to Vietnam

    Before the Tet Offensive America IMHO was very similar to the America of today. There were clearly people who supported the war, people who opposed it and many who were ambivilant. After Tet the psychology and morale of American civilians changed quite dramatically. Americans wanted an end to a...
  24. J

    The real reason we lost Vietnam: Communist Sympathizers

    The real reason we lost Vietnam: Communist Sympathizers Now, I don't like war, and I would have been against the war during Vietnam, but that would be because I neither like being in the military, and nor do I like being in wars. But I must say, the success of the communists during Vietnam...
  25. headscratcher4

    Vietnam II Checklist...

    Ok, I saw this on a blog...it is biased and has undobted inaccuracies (indeed, it plays to my disposition)...it is offered for the sake of HUMOR and because there are enough "truths" that should make many a supporter of the current US Policy in Iraq think (but, I doubt it). So: The Vietnam...
  26. M

    The Vietnam War Memorial....

    This memorial is a paradox. By making the memorial the country has made what it symbolizes patriotic, when in fact it really should not be patriotic. So now people associate the Vietnam War with pride for country and support for the government, when in fact that's really the opposite of what...

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