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White House Survivor

Trebuchet said:
Elaine Chao, but somehow your point has gone whooshing over my head. Is he going to have someone transported to Australia?
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I missed it at first, too. Hat tip to Stacko for the reminder that she is married to Mitch McConnell.
 
Dr. Keith said:
I missed it at first, too. Hat tip to Stacko for the reminder that she is married to Mitch McConnell.
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I don't think Trump or the MAGA media establishment has remembered it either. Expect them to turn on her in short order once that is realized.
 
I'm changing to Bannon though I still think Kushner will leave soon as the Russia investigation makes it too hot for him. Kelly let McMaster fire a Flynn holdover protected by Bannon. Mooch also slammed Bannon and got away with it from the The Hair though he didn't survive Kelly. Bannon is going to get sidelined and will leave in a vain attempt to save his dignity or get shown the door by Kelly.
 
d4m10n said:
White nationalists are on the march; Bannon is just fine.
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He might be in danger because white nationalists are on the march. Kelly may see Bannon as a cheap and easy sacrificial lamb to throw to those in The Hair's own party who see the response to the Nazi rioting as too weak. That, and Bannon couldn't protect his own people on the NSC from McMaster. The Hair also didn't even bother to give a cursory nod of support when "The Mooch" said Bannon was there to "suck his own cock". Sessions and McMaster have strong allies who have rallied around them when The Hair targeted them. Where are the "there will be holy hell to pay" sound bites about Bannon?
 
Craig4 said:
I'm changing to Bannon though I still think Kushner will leave soon as the Russia investigation makes it too hot for him. Kelly let McMaster fire a Flynn holdover protected by Bannon. Mooch also slammed Bannon and got away with it from the The Hair though he didn't survive Kelly. Bannon is going to get sidelined and will leave in a vain attempt to save his dignity or get shown the door by Kelly.
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His what? He might just as soon try to save his unicorn!

Craig4 said:
He might be in danger because white nationalists are on the march. Kelly may see Bannon as a cheap and easy sacrificial lamb to throw to those in The Hair's own party who see the response to the Nazi rioting as too weak.
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Uh-oh, that's not something they should do, as that could (and should) be construed as admitting that the Trump campaign's chief strategist is white supremacist nazi scum - that would reflect very badly on Trump himself, as Bannon was his own, personal choice and hs ticket to the Presidency.

Craig4 said:
That, and Bannon couldn't protect his own people on the NSC from McMaster. The Hair also didn't even bother to give a cursory nod of support when "The Mooch" said Bannon was there to "suck his own cock". Sessions and McMaster have strong allies who have rallied around them when The Hair targeted them. Where are the "there will be holy hell to pay" sound bites about Bannon?
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Kelly is shaking up so much, it's draining his own standing. I still say "Kelly next".
 
Oystein said:
His what? He might just as soon try to save his unicorn!


Uh-oh, that's not something they should do, as that could (and should) be construed as admitting that the Trump campaign's chief strategist is white supremacist nazi scum - that would reflect very badly on Trump himself, as Bannon was his own, personal choice and hs ticket to the Presidency.


Kelly is shaking up so much, it's draining his own standing. I still say "Kelly next".
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I did say a vain attempt. Maybe I should have said, a "vain attempt to save whatever passes for dignity for his kind".

You're right, I suspect Kelly won't serve a full year. However, shaking things up may improve his standing if he's seen by the rest of the staff as someone with the authority to clean house.
 
Craig4 said:
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Sessions and McMaster have strong allies who have rallied around them when The Hair targeted them. Where are the "there will be holy hell to pay" sound bites about Bannon?
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Trump needs to be more scared of those allies than he is of Bannon.

If Bannon goes it won't be quietly, and I think Trump knows that, and is afraid of what the noise will contain.

I expect that Bannon knows where a lot of skeletons are buried.
 
Well, I was gonna say I'm pretty sure Bannon is safe because clearly he or someone in his camp wrote that weak ass tweet.

But if that leak story has legs, uh-oh.

At the same time, he's a (small-time) media mogul, so I'm sure he's got folks on speed dial who can drop quotes in places.

"I'm shocked -shocked!- to find that gambling is going on in here."
 
Stacko said:
Apparently getting equal billing on cover of Joshua Green's book Devil's Bargain is among the last straws.
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True, but the questions at the end of the article require answers by anybody out to oust Bannon:
Other questions circulating the West Wing:
  • How would two Republican mega-donors, Bob and Rebekah Mercer, react if Kelly were to fire Bannon on Trump's behalf? Given the financial support they've given to Bannon and Breitbart, would they turn against Trump, whom they've also supported?
  • How will Trump's base react to Bannon's firing?
  • What kind of havoc could Bannon wreak on the outside, unencumbered by his West Wing responsibilities?
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US politics is money is US poltics. The Mercer angle may be key.
 
dudalb said:
If McMasters goes, Kelly will go also and the gap between Trump and the Mainstream GOP will become an abyss.
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Why do you think Kelly would go too ?

Surely as an honourable military man he would continue to serve the President until those services are no longer required - unless you're saying that the kind of White House climate which would see McMaster quitting or sacked would also result in Kelly being sacked.

I don't think Trump will mind one bit that there is a gulf between him and the RINO GOP. It will be up to the GOP to bridge that gap because Trump will likely be far happier being allowed to Tweet as he wishes and without the burden of GOP expectation regarding getting legislation through Congress (as opposed to simply issuing executive orders).
 
Changing my vote back to Bannon.

It looks like one of those Confederate statues may have been his final horcrux.

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d4m10n said:
Changing my vote back to Bannon.

It looks like one of those Confederate statues may have been his final horcrux.

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There's a little stain on his collar, too.

Do we have firm evidence of where he was the day of the protest?
 
Damn, that guy looks halfway to dead. Seriously, he looks terrible. I hope a doctor is in his near future.
 
d4m10n said:
As a human with some idea of what he's doing, I don't.
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He is still a human and yes, I don't agree with him, but that doesn't mean I wish him something bad.

You do get, that if the hate of right gets as massive on the left as it is on the right, the right has already won in a sense. They want hate to flourish.
 
The Don said:
Why do you think Kelly would go too ?

Surely as an honourable military man he would continue to serve the President until those services are no longer required - unless you're saying that the kind of White House climate which would see McMaster quitting or sacked would also result in Kelly being sacked.

I don't think Trump will mind one bit that there is a gulf between him and the RINO GOP. It will be up to the GOP to bridge that gap because Trump will likely be far happier being allowed to Tweet as he wishes and without the burden of GOP expectation regarding getting legislation through Congress (as opposed to simply issuing executive orders).
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If you think America is dead as a democracy, just say so.
 
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