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Penultimate Amazing
Other than the over g bit, I cannot recall any of Kokomojojo's specific arguments. What I do recall is just basic contrarianism towards anything that was not conspiracy.
http://911debunkers.blogspot.com/2016/10/donald-trump-is-right-about-why-twins.html
Trump was right, 9/11 truth is based on BS people make up without thinking, without science; talk, the evidence used by internet kids who have no practical knowledge of physics, science, and math.
This web site continues to spew nonsense based on overwhelming ignorance. Has to be a scam to get 9/11 truth nuts to hit on the ads - follow the money, or are the authors of this dumbed down claptrap unable to do science.
Quoth the Donald "...I just think that there was a plane with more than just fuel..." and "...It just seemed to me that to do that kind of destruction..."
Some BS right there.
Holy cow, can you cite those quotes?Quoth the Donald "...I just think that there was a plane with more than just fuel..." and "...It just seemed to me that to do that kind of destruction..."
Some BS right there.
They are from the donald the day of 9/11, or the next from an interview.Holy cow, can you cite those quotes?
Not that they're out of character, but I haven't seen them.
These are first impressions, and don't mean much.Donald Trump: Right. I just think that there was a plane with more than just fuel. I think obviously they were very big planes. They were going very rapidly, because I was also watching where the plane seemed to be not only going fast it seems to be coming down into the building. So is getting the speed from going down hill so to speak. It just seemed to me that to do that kind of destruction is even more than a big plane because you're talking about talking about steel, the heaviest caliber steel that was used on the building. These buildings were rock-solid and you know it's just an amazing amazing thing. This country is different today and it's going to be different than it ever was for many years to come.
They are from the donald the day of 9/11, or the next from an interview.
These are first impressions, and don't mean much.
The impact's kinetic energy were more than a plane and fuel, there was velocity squared; adding up to equal energy to bombs ranging from 1300 to 2000 pounds of TNT. It was more than planes and fuel, it was kinetic energy.
They blew up their own command and control centre? Where was that controlled from, then?There were no planes at all on 9/11. WTC7 had a command centre within it and was supposed to "collapse" during the collapses of one of the twins.
This didn't work - so the just demolished it at he end of the day.
In all probability the three remaining planes were diverted to military base ,and passengers sold on the ET slave market (I'm deadly serious)
The ET comment has to be a Poe, mate.
I cam across some Truthers in the wild on FB recently. Waded in on them in a slightly bad tempered way. They did the normal Black Knight routine and then they all went quite. Didn't even have the conviction in their own beliefs sufficient to make a stand.
It's a funny old game.
A crazy person's elegant solution to the "sounds of explosions" question:
[qimg]https://i.imgur.com/jQKblyc.png[/qimg]
The ET comment has to be a Poe, mate.
I cam across some Truthers in the wild on FB recently. Waded in on them in a slightly bad tempered way. They did the normal Black Knight routine and then they all went quite. Didn't even have the conviction in their own beliefs sufficient to make a stand.
It's a funny old game.
Any word on an official Iranian investigation?
I know that the intrepid en-ves-tah-gay-tahs at AE911T have produced their Deep Analysis by Mining YOUtube (DAMYOU), but what are the Iranians doing?
Any word on an official Iranian investigation?
I know that the intrepid en-ves-tah-gay-tahs at AE911T have produced their Deep Analysis by Mining YOUtube (DAMYOU), but what are the Iranians doing?
YTer SaiyanPride 17 said:Ok so a [twig] and a block of wood have the same melting temp? See the problem?
I don't know if he'll ever grasp the stupidity of that statement.
machio0705 said:Building 7 collapsed due to shock waves generated by the collapse of the north and south main structures . These shock waves travel exactly like a shock wave travels from a moving train that hits a bad section of rail . The sound produces a wave that travels through the ground . And in the case of trains or heavy traffic , they are known to fracture underground pipes , even buried tank structures . That's why tanks that are to be buried underground near railroad tracks or major highways need to be placed in heavy concrete bunkers . The shock waves on 911 were thousands of times stronger and damaged building 7's foundation supports which led to eventual collapse . Conspiracy theories are based on emotion . They aren't factual .
I think every now and then you have to call out a wannabe debunker:
WTC7 collapsed from shock waves from WTC1 & WTC2.....7 and 7 1/2 hours after the fact....respectively. Apparently the fires were irrelevant.
Must have been the shockwaves' second or third trip around the world.![]()
I don't have a source for where this theory came from (apologies if it's already been mentioned on this thread), but I recall years ago reading a truther thread where the claim was made that the buildings fell faster than freefall. The person making that claim clearly hadn't thought through the ramifications of such an idea.
Like a lot of conspiracy theories, it was simply based upon some supposed "anomaly" with the "official story" and therefore the official story was fake and the whole thing is a conspiracy. And like a lot of conspiracy theory "anomalies", the supposed anomaly didn't actually make sense in the context of a conspiracy or (lots of conspiracy theory "anomalies" with the "official story" make less sense in the context of the conspiracy being touted).
Figure 5 of Chap 2. South Tower collapse 1 second after Figure 3, in which gray clouds coming from the lower part of the top segment have quickly grown to a large size, at the same time at which the top segment has moved down in height 70 feet in that second, indicating an average acceleration rate in that second over 4X as large as gravitational acceleration.[1] The top segment is clearly disintegrating at its bottom.
...but I am not aware of any discussion of it.
When the Sept. 11 attacks occurred, the Center towers collapsed in six seconds, Miller says, not the 12 seconds it would have taken normal matter. Plus, all the concrete turned to dust. Having discovered the "mathematical interface that all steel is plastic" some years back, Miller understands perfectly what "the physics of plastic" is trying to tell him: A magnetic pulse brought down the towers.
What creates a magnetic pulse? C-4 plastic explosive. Who has C-4? The military. Who controls the military? The post office.
It really amazes me that most people on this planet cannot fathom the english language.
Don't you realise that gravity also holds things UP as well as bring things down.....didn't pass physics at school huh?
So the other day I had a CT present this video of "flashes and bangs" at 7 WTC while it collapsed as proof of explosive demolition. Many of you may be familiar with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJBUedWFJ40&t=0s
I opined the video was an obvious fake, and not even a very good one. By 0:06 it was already clear something is seriously wrong. This CT continued to insist the video was genuine. I finally had to ask him,...
what the East Mechanical Penthouse was doing on the west side of the building.
YouTube channel of Edward Current. I believe this IS the spoof video he made to expose Truther gullibility.Wasn't there a video "made" that portrayed similar behavior, and its author did it as a hoax, but the truthers jumped on it.
YouTube channel of Edward Current. I believe this IS the spoof video he made to expose Truther gullibility.
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I was talking about the video that Mark F posted, that has WTC7 mirror-imaged.Is that the one with the UFO in it? That one made me chuckle.
Is that the one with the UFO in it? That one made me chuckle.
YouTube channel of Edward Current. I believe this IS the spoof video he made to expose Truther gullibility.
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Better yet, their logic implies that nothing can ever collapse because no matter the downward force applied, there will be an equal and opposite upward force.I caught a few of them in a trap when they mention how Newton's Laws say that the bottom section of the towers pushes the top section with equal and opposite force by turning their own logic against them. I say:
So according to your logic and misuse of physics, it is impossible to open a door because no matter how hard you push or pull the door will push or pull back with equal opposite force.
One Truther said "well does the door have a hinge?" but the best one I got was "well that only works if the door is in free space"
The guy mentioning the door having a hinge still hasn't caught on that his logic was turned against him.
So you're saying that the ducks did it then?Aaaaahhhhhhh.......
The stupid illustrated there burned.........
MyfarginGAWD
Unless it's a parody of Monty Python Holy Grail movie scene about how to determine if a woman is a witch.