Trump's US Threat to Greenland (which belongs to Denmark)

[dann]

Orla Joelsen on X, May 12, 2025
Hi Ted!
Citizen of Greenland here,
The majority in Greenland is against to be coming part of the USA. It will never happen, never.
When will you realize that?
The newly appointed American ambassador to Denmark, who will work to purchase Greenland, will never receive a warm welcome from the majority of Greenlanders, when he lands in Nuuk.
#StandwithGreenland

With a sort video (1:41 min.) of Ron DeSantis and Newt Gingrich being asked about Greenland and Trump.
English with subtitles in Danish.

From the thread:

ï_Leclerc on X, May 12, 2025
Dear MAGA,This is a service announcement:
Concealed carry is not a thing in Greenland .
Everyone is carrying their loaded high calibre rifle in plain sight.
In Greenland, MAGA are not the predators
- they are the prey.
End of service announcement.
Now ◊◊◊◊ off!!!

I think it's true about open (and loaded) carry. It's for the polar bears, but it will come in handy for MAGA.

Pia Klemmensen on X, May 12, 2025
I just wait to see the first Mar-a-Lago turist who think the sled dogs are pets
They will get ripped apart

Liat on X, May 12, 2025
When will this stop?
Greenland and Denmark said no and yet, the MAGA administration still persists with their rape diplomacy.
What do Denmark and Greenland need to do so this stops?

cmxnyc on X, May 12, 2025
American citizens agree with the citizens of Greenland.
Only republican politicians, billionaire techbros and maga are trying to take Greenland.
The rest of us respect your country and will never support such aggression.

 

[dann]

If Trump wants Greenland so badly then he should offer it full statehood (including 2 Senators and 3 EC votes) so that it enjoys the same protection under the constitution as the other states. (Trump doesn't want that at all of course).

I don't think he can actually do that. I think it would be a step too far for Republicans. It wouldn't be politically expedient for them. Not because it would require war against a NATO ally. Most of them probably wouldn't mind. However, the already existing 'overseas territories' would demand at least the similar status, and Republicans wouldn't want to grant them that.
Population size: Greenland 57,000

U.S. overseas territories:
U.S. Samoa 47,000
Northern Mariana Islands 56,000
U.S. Virgin Islands 105,000
Guam 169,000
Puerto Rico 3,206,000

(Nobody claims that there is in any real logic to this:
Alaska 740,000
Hawaii 1,446,000)

As for enjoying "the same protection under the constitution as the other states," protection has very little to do with it.

 

[psionl0]

I don't think he can actually do that.

There is no need for a sensible analysis. Trump clearly sees Greenland as a piece of real estate that he can buy and do with whatever he wants and bugger the inhabitants.

I don't know why any territory would want to be part of the US if they are not states - especially with Trump acting like he is a king.

 

[Clutch Cargo]

Trump clearly sees Greenland as a piece of real estate that he can buy and do with whatever he wants and bugger the inhabitants.

The key word is "buy". If Greenland becomes incorporated into the US it will be "bought" at a price that is seen as "fair" by both parties. The "inhabitants" (as you say) have nothing to do with it and never have. You do understand that, right? The only thing I'd like to point out most emphatically is that the US won't steal Greenland so any complaints you might have will have to be lodged with the authorities in both the US and Greenland.

 

[3point14]

I have spoken with hundreds of Greenlanders in Denmark and they all love Trump.

Nobody with their head screwed on loves Trump.

Hell, Trump's wife doesn't love Trump.

 

[Clutch Cargo]

Nobody with their head screwed on loves Trump.

Spend some time at the main railway station in Copenhagen and speak with the Greenlanders hanging out there (homeless it seems) and ask them why they would rather be American citizens. Then come back and tell us what they said.

 

[Steve]

I have spoken with hundreds of Greenlanders in Denmark and they all love Trump.

This contains two blatant lies in one short sentence.

 

[steenkh]

I don't know why any territory would want to be part of the US if they are not states

I can’t think of any reason why a place like Greenland would want to be part of the U.S. even if it could become a state.

 

[Darat]

I can’t think of any reason why a place like Greenland would want to be part of the U.S. even if it could become a state.

Access to the USA's world beating healthcare?

 

[3point14]

Spend some time at the main railway station in Copenhagen and speak with the Greenlanders hanging out there (homeless it seems) and ask them why they would rather be American citizens. Then come back and tell us what they said.

Perhaps you could tell me, as I'm not in Copenhagen. Or, and I realise this is radical, actually produce some evidence (wild, I know)

But I get it - The USA is notoriously compassionate towards its homeless population...

 

[TragicMonkey]

Access to the USA's world beating healthcare?

American healthcare delivers a world-class beating to the wallet.

 

[Clutch Cargo]

I have spoken with hundreds of Greenlanders in Denmark and they all love Trump.

This contains two blatant lies in one short sentence.

1). I have spoken with hundreds of Greenanders in Denmark over the years. That is no lie.
2). The subject of Trump & Greenland however is a rather new subject and during this period (on that subject) I have spoken to 50 or 60 Greenlanders. They have all voiced their approval of Trump for more than one reason. They are dissatsified with being treated poorly by the Dansish government, they don't want Denmark to go to war against Russia, and they are of the hope that Trump will change all of that. No lies at all.

 

[3point14]

1). I have spoken with hundreds of Greenanders in Denmark over the years. That is no lie.
2). The subject of Trump & Greenland however is a rather new subject and during this period (on that subject) I have spoken to 50 or 60 Greenlanders. They have all voiced their approval of Trump for more than one reason. They are dissatsified with being treated poorly by the Dansish government, they don't want Denmark to go to war against Russia, and they are of the hope that Trump will change all of that. No lies at all.

I don't believe you.

This is a Trump tactic, isn't it. The 'people are saying' and the 'I've spoken to lots of people. (big, strong people with tears in their eyes).

Nobody here is going to believe you without actual evidence.

 

[Clutch Cargo]

Perhaps you could tell me, as I'm not in Copenhagen. Or, and I realise this is radical, actually produce some evidence (wild, I know)

But I get it - The USA is notoriously compassionate towards its homeless population...

No, I do not agree that the US is compassionate towards the homeless. Not at all. Greenlanders express their hopes and if they feel that Trump might improve their situation (in any way) then they ought to have the right to say so. Do you disagree with that?

 

[varwoche]

1). I have spoken with hundreds of Greenanders in Denmark over the years. That is no lie.
2). The subject of Trump & Greenland however is a rather new subject and during this period (on that subject) I have spoken to 50 or 60 Greenlanders. They have all voiced their approval of Trump for more than one reason. They are dissatsified with being treated poorly by the Dansish government, they don't want Denmark to go to war against Russia, and they are of the hope that Trump will change all of that. No lies at all.

The evidence suggests that either your sample is massively flawed, or else you're making stuff up again.

A new poll reveals that an overwhelming majority of Greenlanders reject the idea of their Arctic island becoming part of the United States, with many viewing President Trump's interest as a threat.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

The evidence is still there whether you like its tone or not.

I'm inclined to accept the actual opinion of the people is the one they recently expressed, and not one person's anecdotal straw poll.

 

[Darat]

Sorry for any confusing DMs, emails or alerts you may have received, I incorrectly moved 16 posts to AAH, I've now moved them back.

Posted By: Darat

 

[Hlafordlaes]

Anecdotally, once met a Spanish woman on a flight back from the US, who told me she was returning to Spain to gather her belongings and enthusiastically return to Greenland to settle down for good. Said she found the people so friendly and refreshingly so. Spain's culture is already warm and family-friendly, so I can only anecdotally conclude that US culture would be a total mismatch for Greenlanders, on the order of the (apocryphal, unconfirmed) horrid ruin of the Pueblo Indian culture by human sacrifice adherents moving up from Mexico. What a way to go; hell on Earth coming to town.

Next DOOM title: The Mercan Death Melt.

 

[Foster Zygote]

Trump is such a master negotiator that Clutch can look forward to pointing out the ecstatic enthusiasm of the Greenlander's for their new American citizenship/subjectification by the time he returns from his latest holiday.

 

[psionl0]

The only thing I'd like to point out most emphatically is that the US won't steal Greenland.

 

[dann]

I guess 'US Arctic Commissioner' Tom Dans & his American Daybreak are now working from home:

Orla Joelsen on X, May 7, 2025
A mysterious Facebook page has emerged with unknown individuals behind it.
The page has sponsored posts targeting Greenlanders, asking for their opinions on Pituffik, the military, and the relationship between the US and Greenland. The Facebook page was created on May 3rd.

Orla Joelsen on X, May 8, 2025
Post by “Nipit pingaaruteqarpoq” You voice is important (Sponsored): has posted this;
“Do you think Greenland should improve its cooperation with the U.S. in military matters?”
Many locals have asked who is behind this Facebook page.

Orla Joelsen on X, May13, 2025
The Facebook page has deleted all posts. Interesting.

 

[dann]

The only thing I'd like to point out most emphatically is that the US won't steal Greenland

Indeed!

Peace for our time (Wikipedia)
My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time.

 

[dann]

US president “still committed” to acquiring Greenland, White House confirms (Caliber.az, May 19, 2025)
Speaking to reporters, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt addressed questions about Trump’s stance on Greenland, which he previously expressed during his presidency, Caliber.Azreports via foreign media.
“Trump maintains the reasoning for Greenland’s strategic purposes in the Arctic and he continues to remain committed to the idea of obtaining Greenland in whatever means we can to advance our national security interests in the region,” Leavitt said.

Karoline Leavitt Confirms That Trump Is Delusional (Farron Balanced on YouTube, May 21, 2025 - 5:55 min.)
Karoline Leavitt confirmed during a press briefing this week that the President of the United States is still apparently suffering from severe delusions because he is still dead-set on getting his hands on Greenland. This admission came after officials in both Greenland and Denmark have repeatedly confirmed that the territory is neither for sale nor up for negotiation, but Trump insists that it should be a part of America.

 

[dann]

How Trump will invade Greenland:

Tidligere højtstående efterretningsspecialist i den amerikanske flåde: Sådan vil USA invadere Grønland (DR.dk, May 21, 2025)
Malcolm Nance kommer med et helt konkret råd til, hvordan Danmark og Grønland "kalder Trumps bluff".

Former Senior Intelligence Specialist in the US Navy: This is How the US Will Invade Greenland
Malcolm Nance gives very specific advice on how Denmark and Greenland "call Trump's bluff".

The article has two short videos in English (Danish subtitles) with Malcolm Nance

More here: Tidligere efterretningsofficer er ankommet til Grønland med en mission (TV2.dk May 14, 2025)

Malcolm Nance has a GoFundMe account:
You’re supporting Help Fund Malcolm Nance's Greenland Invasion Study

Malcolm Nance on X, May 17, 2025
BYE-BYE Nuuk Greenland
& @OJoelsen!
May 17, 2025
Temp: 7C (45F) Sunny & Happy
Final Assessment: Greenland is NOT FOR SALE OR SEIZURE.
It’s #FAFOCountry

 

[dann]

More Malcolm Nance:

Rational Pear on X, Mar 28, 2025
what does that physically look like? cruiser sails into bay, ties up at the pier, a 100 marines walk peacefully to city hall, and read a declaration? everybody laughs at them and goes about their business?

Malcolm Nance on X, Mar 29, 2025
INVADING GREENLAND: Look for these warning signs listed below to occur well in advance of the USA activating military assets to carry out the invasion and occupation.

Malcolm Nance on X, Mar 28, 2025
How will this happen?
1) A Battalion of marines, 10th Mountain & a mass of US Air Force Security Police are “quietly” alerted to draw weapons and Extreme Cold Weather Gear.
2) AFSOC CCT “airport control” teams and Special Forces mountain troops will be alerted to take Nuuk airport.
3) Dozens of C-17 & refueling aircraft missions will be scheduled to go to Nuuk & Thule. A clandestine capable civil airliner will carry CCT/SOF to Nuuk. A follow on C-17 missions to bring the below listed to take over administration.
4) US Marshals, ICE & DHS Swat teams will be quietly alerted to be prepared to take over airport & police duties on streets.
5) A US Special Operations Expeditionary warfare sea base & a helicopter carrier will depart east coast, stop in Wilmington NC to embark follow on SOF/Marines and head to Nuuk to act as interim “capitol/embassy” for new “American” administrators brought from Alaska.
6) Trump declares it a US protectorate territory. Names it Trump-land.
This is the stupidest idea and it WILL go sideways. Both Greenlanders and Americans will be killed.

Lars Wallden on X, Mar 29, 2025
They can't do that without sinking some Danish ships and killing soldiers, possibly also civilians. The US will have to declare war on Denmark so Congress must be in on it.That will mean the end for international relations and trade as it is today. The USA becomes a fascist state and a paria, the world economy will plummet into recession and poverty.Tomorrow you better buy supplies for a week or two, things will start to get ugly.

Malcolm Nance on X, Mar 29, 2025
This is sorta correct minus the congress replacing war. Trump can do it quickly with the war powers act.

Trump’s Greenland plan is ‘the stupidest thing ever’ | Malcolm Nance (Times Radio on YouTube, May 21, 2025 - 27:49 min.)
Former US Navy intelligence Malcolm Nance tells Times Radio's Fergus Macphee about his recent trip to Greenland, why the Trump administration is so interested in the island and how any plans would affect those living there.

 

[steenkh]

It seems that nobody are asking Trump or his minions what kind of security they can get by "owning" Greenland rather than just doing whatever they please as they can now with existing treaties.
It would be interesting to see if they'll admit that it is mostly in order to ignore Greenlandic objections to mining operations.

 

[The Don]

It seems that nobody are asking Trump or his minions what kind of security they can get by "owning" Greenland rather than just doing whatever they please as they can now with existing treaties.
It would be interesting to see if they'll admit that it is mostly in order to ignore Greenlandic objections to mining operations.

It's maybe also so that Trump can go down in history for adding the largest amount of territory to the US (not realising that the Mercator projection makes Greenland appear so much larger than it actually is).

 

[steenkh]

It's maybe also so that Trump can go down in history for adding the largest amount of territory to the US (not realising that the Mercator projection makes Greenland appear so much larger than it actually is).

Precisely, but he is unlikely to state this openly. Besides, adding Greenland and Canada really will make him the president that enlarged the territory of the U.S. the most. In other words, he would be the greatest, and most beautiful president ever (say I with a tear in my eyes).

 

[a_unique_person]

VERY INTERESTING​

* Hawaii and Greenland are roughly the same distance from the US.

* Greenland is part of North America, Hawaii is not.

* Hawaii is a US state, Greenland is not ….. but it could become one as long as both governments come to an agreement.

It can't be a state. It's going to be a second tier territory.

 

[Resume]

Bwahahahahahahahahaha!!

Greenland has allowed a Danish-French consortium to mine a rock which is key to the production of aluminum.

The permit granted to Greenland Anorthosite Mining (GAM) to extract anorthosite follows interest in the Arctic territory from U.S. President Donald Trump in acquiring the autonomous island which is part of the Kingdom of Denmark.

GAM, which is backed by French company Jean Boulle Group and real estate investment firms bodies from Denmark and Greenland, was granted a 30-year permit, Reuters reported.

Jesper Willaing Zeuthen, associate professor at Aalborg University, in Denmark, told Newsweek Trump's interest in Greenland's resources is likely to be more in securing long-term investment objects which is difficult under current Greenlandic legislation.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Greenland signs lucrative minerals deal with Europe in blow to Trump

The Arctic territory has issued a 30-year mining permit to a Danish-French consortium.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Hercules56]

Greenland signs lucrative minerals deal with Europe in blow to Trump

The Arctic territory has issued a 30-year mining permit to a Danish-French consortium.

www.newsweek.com

Good. ◊◊◊◊ the USA as long as Trump is in charge.

Buy Canadian!!!

 

[dann]

Mainly based on the Newsweek article, I think:

WOW: Greenland & Europe team up, DEFY Trump in surprise move (Brian Tyler Cohen on YouTube, May 23, 2025 - 8:05 min.)
BREAKING #news - Greenland & Europe team up to DEFY Trump in surprise move

0:50--> The deal allows Greenland Anorthosite Mining, which is a Danish-French partnership, to extract anorrthosite, a key mineral used in aluminum production from Greenlandic territory. And here's the kicker: Greenland's mineral resources minister basically said that while American business delegations have visited this year, despite all of Trump's bluster and threats there has been zero formal dialogue with the Trump administration
and absolutely no increased interest in direct investment from the United States.
It's also worth talking about what this mining deal actually represents. This anorthosite extraction project is being positioned as a climate-friendly alternative to bauxite for aluminum production. It's a strategic partnership that could provide raw materials for aircrafts, vehicles and defense applications. This is exactly the kind of resource access that Trump claimed* he wanted from Greenland, but instead of getting it he's watching European companies walk away with 30-year extraction rights, while the US gets absolutely nothing. That's what happens when your foreign policy consists entirely of threats and bluster instead of actual diplomacy.
In other words, Trump spent months making bombastic statements about acquiring Greenland, treating itlike some kind of real estate deal he could just muscle his way into. He talked about Greenland like it was a piece of property he could snatch up for a steal at auction.
He completely ignored the fact that Greenland just so happens to be a sovereign territory with its own government that makes its own decisions, and while Trump was busy making threats and acting like a colonial era imperialist, European partners were actually doing the work, building relationships negotiating deals and treating Greenland like the sovereign entity that it actually is.

* Well, I don't think Trump ever claimed that he wanted "a climate friendly alternative" to anything, but apart from that it's probably true.

ETA: A warning to Americans and other nationalists, i.e. to everybody!
Do you notice the mistake Brian Tyler Cohen makes here, repeatedly?

5:50--> His aggressive confrontational approach to international relations consistently results in other countries choosing to work with our competitors instead of with us. (...) The really infuriating part, though, is that this was completely avoidable. The United States could have been competing for these mining rights, American companies could have been building partnerships with Greenlandic authorities, we could have been securing access to these strategic resources through normal diplomatic and business channels, but Trump's ego and his colonial mindset got in the way.

If you don't, I'll highlight it for you:

His aggressive confrontational approach to international relations consistently results in other countries choosing to work with our competitors instead of with us. (...) The really infuriating part, though, is that this was completely avoidable. The United States could have been competing for these mining rights, American companies could have been building partnerships with Greenlandic authorities, we could have been securing access to these strategic resources through normal diplomatic and business channels, but Trump's ego and his colonial mindset got in the way.

Notice the smooth transition from our, us --> the USA --> American companies and back to we.
I know it's difficult to grasp when you have been singing songs about is as children, sworn allegiance to it, and heard politician tell you to Make America Great Again or Yes We Can, but America was never you, American companies were never you. In the current situation, in particular, it should have become pretty obvious to everybody, but the USA and American companies like Tesla or Exxon Mobil are you as little as the Danish Realm or Greenland Anorthosite Mining or Novo Nordisk is me.

However, as long as you think that you and the USA and American companies are one and the same thing, sharing the same interests, you will remain useful idiots for 'your' presidents and 'your' oligarchs, and as long as you think that's the case, you will continue to believe that the rest of the world is 'your' enemy.

 

[dann]

Denmark’s Constitution Day (U.S. Department of State, June 5, 2025)
PRESS STATEMENT
MARCO RUBIO, SECRETARY OF STATE
On behalf of the United States, I extend my congratulations to the people of the Kingdom of Denmark as you celebrate the anniversary of your Constitution. Our nations share a long history as founding NATO Allies, bound by our commitment to peace and global security.
Our enduring relationship is a testament to our shared history and common strategic interests. Together, we are committed to increased NATO defense spending and burden sharing, ensuring a safe, stable, and prosperous Arctic region and advancing trade and investment between our nations.
As you celebrate the anniversary of the signing of the Danish Constitution, I look forward to continuing to build on this strong foundation with the people of Denmark, Greenland, and the Faroe Islands.Tillykke, Denmark!

Tillykke means congratulations.

But then there's stuff like this:

Andrew Leyden on X, June 4, 2025
A new flag has been spotted on a building near the White House and if you look closely, you’ll notice they added a 51st star reportedly for Greenland.

The added 51st star is green and placed below the others.

 

[dann]

Orla Joelsen on X, June 3, 2025
Hi civil servant employed at the U.S. Department of State who viewed my LinkedIn profile.
I noticed that you recently viewed my LinkedIn profile. I just wanted to say thank you for taking the time, to viewed my profile. Have you any specific reasons to [be] viewing my profile?
#StandwithGreenland

 

[dann]

Trump administration plans to move Greenland from U.S. European Command to Northern Command (CBS News, June 3, 2025)
Moving Greenland to Northern Command, which is in charge of defending the homeland, is a symbolic statement suggesting a view of Greenland as more a part of the defense of the U.S. than of Europe. In the eyes of the U.S., the move treats Greenland more like Canada and less like a part of the Kingdom of Denmark. Politico first reported the planned move, and CNN first reported the administration was considering the change.

Malcolm Nance on X, June 3, 2025
#Greenland This isn’t good but it was expected.
This move is a “legal” & operational precursor to seizing the island. By placing it under direct US military commanders at NorthCom HQ in Cheyenne Mt complex and OUT of US European command’s authority in Stuttgart it means the USA will no longer recognize it as part of NATO’s Europe’s defense strategy, but places it under the USA continental defense planning just like Alaska.
This is a small but necessary step before Trump’s long awaited “annexation” … which can only practically be done by armed invasion and military occupation followed by forced citizenship on the Inuit Greenlanders & expulsion of European Danes.

Malcolm Nance on X, June 4, 2025
It puts Greenland under the North American defense. command structure.
It literally is a slap in the face to Denmark by segregating Greenland from continental Europe as far as we are concerned.
It would be akin to China, claiming Guam should be a Chinese territory and suddenly placing it under the Eastern Theater Command’s defense plans.
You’d think that would be pretty provocative, right? So is this.

Forsvaret øger sine aktiviteter i og omkring Grønland de kommende måneder (Naalakkersuisut, The Department of Foreign Affairs and Research, June 5, 2025)
The Defense will increase its activities in and around Greenland in the coming months

 

[theprestige]

Tillykke means congratulations.

But then there's stuff like this:


The added 51st star is green and placed below the others.

That flag is adorable.

 

[theprestige]

Forsvaret øger sine aktiviteter i og omkring Grønland de kommende måneder (Naalakkersuisut, The Department of Foreign Affairs and Research, June 5, 2025)
The Defense will increase its activities in and around Greenland in the coming months

I await the rational explanation for why Greenland should be a European strategic element, rather than a North American strategic element.

That Trump is irrational goes without saying.

There's no reason Danes need to play along. If Putin really is gearing up for a larger European conflict, it makes sense to take Greenland off EURCOM's plate.

It's interesting that Danes are more concerned about this than about Moscow's antics in the Baltic Sea. The Baltic states, Poland, Sweden, and Finland are all standing up to Moscow, but Copenhagen is letting itself be distracted. Like possession of Greenland is more important than the survival of Denmark.

 

[arthwollipot]

It's interesting that Danes are more concerned about this than about Moscow's antics in the Baltic Sea. The Baltic states, Poland, Sweden, and Finland are all standing up to Moscow, but Copenhagen is letting itself be distracted. Like possession of Greenland is more important than the survival of Denmark.

I don't think the evidence supports that conjecture.

 

[Lukraak_Sisser]

I await the rational explanation for why Greenland should be a European strategic element, rather than a North American strategic element.

That Trump is irrational goes without saying.

There's no reason Danes need to play along. If Putin really is gearing up for a larger European conflict, it makes sense to take Greenland off EURCOM's plate.

It's interesting that Danes are more concerned about this than about Moscow's antics in the Baltic Sea. The Baltic states, Poland, Sweden, and Finland are all standing up to Moscow, but Copenhagen is letting itself be distracted. Like possession of Greenland is more important than the survival of Denmark.

yes. why would a country be upset about a former ally suddenly attempting to claim a large part of your nation out of the blue ?
Especially when that nation already has a large military presence in said territory and is led by an irresponsible manchild who is actively purging the military of it's sane commanders.

Ridiculous.