Trump's US Threat to Greenland (which belongs to Denmark)

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President Elect Trump isn't backing down on his claim to want Greenland, which the US is already using as a strategic military base. Danish PM Mette Frederiksen is getting quite worried.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1879935109174030613

I can't help thinking Trump and Putin have devised a secret Hitler-Stalin type pact to carve up the western world between them. Put two mad men together...

Uncle Joe and Adolf left > 20m people dead between them in their imperialistic thirst for power. It doesn't augur well.
 
Vixen said:
President Elect Trump isn't backing down on his claim to want Greenland, which the US is already using as a strategic military base. Danish PM Mette Frederiksen is getting quite worried.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1879935109174030613

I can't help thinking Trump and Putin have devised a secret Hitler-Stalin type pact to carve up the western world between them. Put two mad men together...

Uncle Joe and Adolf left > 20m people dead between them in their imperialistic thirst for power. It doesn't augur well.
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And we know how long the Hitler/Stalin pact lasted, don't we?
 
@Vixen, you may want to find another source to verify that story:

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arthwollipot said:
Hitler wanted liebensraum. I doubt very many Americans, no matter how pure their blood, are going to be moving into Greenland.
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Hitler wanted lebensraum - living space. A practical solution for a growing population and its growing need for farmland.

Liebensraum isn't a word, but if it were, it would be closer to what Trump seems to be talking about, and further from what Hitler was fighting for.

Congrats on being so wrong you're right, but also wrong.
 
theprestige said:
Hitler wanted lebensraum - living space. A practical solution for a growing population and its growing need for farmland.

Liebensraum isn't a word, but if it were, it would be closer to what Trump seems to be talking about, and further from what Hitler was fighting for.

Congrats on being so wrong you're right, but also wrong.
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ANd get by exterminating the populations already there.
Guy, once I respected you, but if are gong to defend Hilter and American beomcing a imperealist power, I just lost that respect.
We have NO right to take over Greenland. None. Period, end of story. Let's let the Greelanders decide that.
 
theprestige said:
Hitler wanted lebensraum - living space. A practical solution for a growing population and its growing need for farmland.

Liebensraum isn't a word, but if it were, it would be closer to what Trump seems to be talking about, and further from what Hitler was fighting for.

Congrats on being so wrong you're right, but also wrong.
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Sorry for misspelling a word from a language that I don't speak from memory.
 
From what little I understand of the political landscape of this (under-60,000-residents) desolate island nation,
the left-leaning bloc, of which Frederiksen's Social Democratic party is a part, has 90 seats, the slimmest possible majority in the 179-seat parliament, while the right-wing bloc maintains 72 seats and their coalition partners in a centrist party have 16.

With a minimum amount of Trump's effort (and money) I can easily imagine the Parliament being dissolved in its current configuration, and new elections resulting in the Rightists getting the majority seats, with the stated intention of being amenable to an American takeover.

In the history of Greenland there have been many changes of presence regarding who is in charge of the security of Greenlandic people and its land.
 
arthwollipot said:
Hitler wanted liebensraum. I doubt very many Americans, no matter how pure their blood, are going to be moving into Greenland.
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Strictly speaking, that came later, when Hitler broke the pact (between German General Ribbentrop and USSR General Molotov), when they divided up Europe between them, with Stalin staging a red-flag operation against Finland, falsely claiming Finland fired first, as the prelude to starting the division, in 1939. Hitler had a romantic idea as ideated in the late 1800's, of Germania: a greater Germany. This saw anyone non-German as untermenschen, hence his surprise attack on USSR, 1942, as a pretext of replacing the Slavs with Germans. He called it 'Lebensraum' but that was just the rationale for the German army.

We see something similar going on with Trump and Putin. You recall when Trump visited Putin in Helsinki, 2018, he had a secret meeting behind closed doors with Putin without the normal protocols of at least one aide being present the whole time (we saw something similar when then-UK PM Boris Johnson, shook off his protection personnel and aides to attend a 'party' in Italy with former KGB agent Lebedev (and made his son a Lord!). We've seen Carlsson Tucker flirting with Putin in Moscow recently and Elon Musk helping to swing the US elections, not to mention Russian interference in UK Brexit.

So yeah, the post-election announcement Trump wanted Greenland is not just another of Trump's dimwitted outbursts, it is a deliberate signal to the world of his intentions, so that it doesn't come as a surprise when Trump attempts to make Greenland - and maybe even Canada - a US State, plus change the name of Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America.

Notice who Trump has invited to his inauguration: far right leaders Meloni and Orbán but not the EU leaders, Macron or KCIII (who wasn't expected to attend anyway). His side kick, Elon Musk using X-twitter to spread far right propaganda.

None of this is innocent.

We have been put on notice.
 
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webfusion said:
From what little I understand of the political landscape of this (under-60,000-residents) desolate island nation,
the left-leaning bloc, of which Frederiksen's Social Democratic party is a part, has 90 seats, the slimmest possible majority in the 179-seat parliament, while the right-wing bloc maintains 72 seats and their coalition partners in a centrist party have 16.
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You're describing Denmarks political setup. Greenlands own government is a coalition of two parties with 22 out of 31 seats in their parliament.

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dudalb said:
ANd get by exterminating the populations already there.
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Well, yes. Hitler was a monster.
dudalb said:
Guy, once I respected you, but if are gong to defend Hilter and American beomcing a imperealist power, I just lost that respect.
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Nowhere do I defend either of
dudalb said:
We have NO right to take over Greenland. None. Period, end of story.
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Agreed.
dudalb said:
Let's let the Greelanders decide that.
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I think it's actually the Danes that get to decide.
 
arthwollipot said:
Sorry for misspelling a word from a language that I don't speak from memory.
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Calm down. I just thought it was funny. "Liebensraum" would mean something like "love land". I choose to interpret this as something along the lines of "desired land" I.e., Trump doesn't want Greenland for any practical purpose, but just because he's in love with the idea of having Greenland. Which seems pretty on brand for Trump.
 
1. False flag attack on the Pituffik Space BaseWP

2. Social media push for retaliatory action.

4. US troops land in Greenland to protect Americans.

5. General cheering and support from majority of US citizens.

6. Parliamentarians in Reykjavik arrested for war crimes.

7. Puppet government established.

8. Great success declared by President for Life Trump.

9 Greenland US Territory established.

Couldn't happen? How soon have you forgotten Iraq? Vide:
www.pewresearch.org

A Look Back at How Fear and False Beliefs Bolstered U.S. Public Support for War in Iraq

Twenty years ago this month, the U.S. launched a major invasion of Iraq. President George W. Bush and his administration at first drew broad public support for the use of military force. Yet the campaign soon left Americans deeply divided, and by 2019, 62% said the Iraq War was not worth fighting.
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Gord_in_Toronto said:
1. False flag attack on the Pituffik Space BaseWP

2. Social media push for retaliatory action.

4. US troops land in Greenland to protect Americans.

5. General cheering and support from majority of US citizens.

6. Parliamentarians in Reykjavik arrested for war crimes.

7. Puppet government established.

8. Great success declared by President for Life Trump.

9 Greenland US Territory established.

Couldn't happen? How soon have you forgotten Iraq? Vide:
www.pewresearch.org

A Look Back at How Fear and False Beliefs Bolstered U.S. Public Support for War in Iraq

Twenty years ago this month, the U.S. launched a major invasion of Iraq. President George W. Bush and his administration at first drew broad public support for the use of military force. Yet the campaign soon left Americans deeply divided, and by 2019, 62% said the Iraq War was not worth fighting.
www.pewresearch.org www.pewresearch.org
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Iraq, the independent sovereign state?

Maybe you're thinking of Panama... the independent sovereign state?

Or was it Granada... the independent sovereign state?

Maybe the Philippines? They're an independent sovereign state now, but it was touch and go for a while there.

Hang on. What about Japan? Or Germany?
 
Gord_in_Toronto said:
1. False flag attack on the Pituffik Space BaseWP

2. Social media push for retaliatory action.

4. US troops land in Greenland to protect Americans.

5. General cheering and support from majority of US citizens.

6. Parliamentarians in Reykjavik arrested for war crimes.

7. Puppet government established.

8. Great success declared by President for Life Trump.

9 Greenland US Territory established.

Couldn't happen? How soon have you forgotten Iraq? Vide:
www.pewresearch.org

A Look Back at How Fear and False Beliefs Bolstered U.S. Public Support for War in Iraq

Twenty years ago this month, the U.S. launched a major invasion of Iraq. President George W. Bush and his administration at first drew broad public support for the use of military force. Yet the campaign soon left Americans deeply divided, and by 2019, 62% said the Iraq War was not worth fighting.
www.pewresearch.org www.pewresearch.org
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Reykjavik is in Iceland, not Greenland.
 
theprestige said:
Calm down. I just thought it was funny. "Liebensraum" would mean something like "love land". I choose to interpret this as something along the lines of "desired land" I.e., Trump doesn't want Greenland for any practical purpose, but just because he's in love with the idea of having Greenland. Which seems pretty on brand for Trump.
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Okay, that is a little bit funny.
 
theprestige said:
I said what I said.
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Yes, you did. I didn't question that.

I asked if you meant Grenada, because Grenada is an independent sovereign state in the Caribbean, whereas Granada is a province of the autonomous community of Andalusia, Spain, or the capital city of said province. It is not an independent sovereign state.

...The Spanish model is generally considered by foreign political scientists and scholars as "a federal system with certain peculiarities". However it is also described as a decentralised unitary country. While sovereignty is vested in the nation as a whole, represented in the central institutions of government, the nation has, to varying degrees, devolved power to the communities...
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Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_communities_of_Spain
 
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junkshop said:
Yes, you did. I didn't question that.

I asked if you meant Grenada, because Grenada is an independent sovereign state in the Caribbean, whereas Granada is a province of the autonomous community of Andalusia, Spain, or the capital city of said province. It is not an independent sovereign state.



Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_communities_of_Spain
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Granada, the Andalusian province in Spain, isn't an independent sovereign state? Then why is it on my list?
 
theprestige said:
Granada, the Andalusian province in Spain, isn't an independent sovereign state? Then why is it on my list?
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It isn't even an autonomous community, just a mere province. The capital of the province (also Granada) is a spectacular city with the most excellent palace, the Al-Hambra. Amazing place in great condition.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alhambra
 
theprestige said:
Calm down. I just thought it was funny. "Liebensraum" would mean something like "love land". I choose to interpret this as something along the lines of "desired land" I.e., Trump doesn't want Greenland for any practical purpose, but just because he's in love with the idea of having Greenland. Which seems pretty on brand for Trump.
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That is pretty funny. Calling it Love Island to improve its appeal is very much on-brand considering the story about how it came to be called Greenland.
 
webfusion said:
With a minimum amount of Trump's effort (and money) I can easily imagine the Parliament being dissolved in its current configuration, and new elections resulting in the Rightists getting the majority seats, with the stated intention of being amenable to an American takeover.
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When you say you can imagine it are you imagining the bit about right-wing Greenlanders wanting their country to be annexed by Trump or is that actually a thing?
 
Gord_in_Toronto said:
1. False flag attack on the Pituffik Space BaseWP

2. Social media push for retaliatory action.

4. US troops land in Greenland to protect Americans.

5. General cheering and support from majority of US citizens.

6. Parliamentarians in Reykjavik arrested for war crimes.

7. Puppet government established.

8. Great success declared by President for Life Trump.

9 Greenland US Territory established.

Couldn't happen?
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Already at point 1 that's incredibly unlikely.
 
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