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Trump's Second Term

One of the worst things about Trump and MAGA is they are empowring the more exteme left.....A number o
Oh, you interrupted yourself now...
I am convinced the Trump /Musk bromance will be short lived, Both want to be the Alpha Dog and there can be only one.

Sure, we can hope. But what if, and this might shock you, but what if they sort of agreed to use their power and influence to mutually benefit themselves by having Musk use his propaganda platform to promote Trump while Trump gets some lackeys to come up with ways of hamstringing companies and countries he disagrees with using targeted regulations and tariffs while making sure that they don't affect Musk's companies such as Tesla, SpaceX and Twitter. Then they can also use their wealth and bully pulpit to keep the GOP in line or get them primaried to make sure that Congress does as they say. Then what do they have to worry about? The Supreme Court? LOL! Of course not. The Supreme Court is mostly in their pocket and if they do rule against Trump or grumble that Musk is behaving in some way outside the Constitution, then what are they going to do? How are they going to enforce anything? Vance has already gone on record saying that he thinks Trump SHOULD replace the civil servants that aren't loyal to him with his own lackeys and that if the Supreme Court objects to just ignore it.
 
NPR isn't funded by taxes.
When has a trivial thing like facts mattered to the GOP ?

If NPR receives no public funding then Musk can simply announce that public funding for NPR has ceased - job done. The job of DOGE is not to save money but to take potshots at programmes and initiatives that the GOP doesn't like.
 
When has a trivial thing like facts mattered to the GOP ?

If NPR receives no public funding then Musk can simply announce that public funding for NPR has ceased - job done. The job of DOGE is not to save money but to take potshots at programmes and initiatives that the GOP doesn't like.
Because it will be a non-government body, it can be ignored by everyone. Soon, it will be a laughing stock.
 
Donald lays out his tax plans

He's creating an External Revenue Service

Donald J. Trump
@realDonald Trump

For far too long, we have relied on taxing our Great People using the Internal Revenue Service (IRS).

Through soft and pathetically weak Trade agreements, the American Economy has delivered growth and prosperity to the World, while taxing ourselves. It is time for that to change. I am today announcing that I will create the EXTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE to collect our Tariffs, Duties, and all Revenue that come from Foreign sources. We will begin charging those that make money off of us with Trade, and they will start paying, FINALLY, their fair share. January 20, 2025, will be the birth date of the External Revenue Service.

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
 
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I think Trump wants Hegseth to run the millitary so that the army can go door to door, to factories and fields, and demand "where are ze papers?" and then truck them all to Mexico. More of them set up at border to shoot anyone trying to come back.
 
He's going to create some fabuloso new department out of thin air, with no government approval or oversight, to do what is already being done by an existing department by statute.

This is going to be SO much fun! 🍿
The Department of Government Efficiency will no doubt declare that it will be good to have multiple departments doing the same thing. The deep state one which can be in conflict with the unofficial one that just makes decrees through Twitter and demands that everyone listen to them.
 
As a boost to the American economy we will tax all foreigners living abroad.
Presumably to offset the money we won't be spending in the US. I've visited the US the past two summers + a quick trip in the past fall, but I'll be visiting elsewhere for the next four years.
 
Donald lays out his tax plans

He's creating an External Revenue Service
This will be great! I won't have to pay any extra due to tariffs, because foreigners will pay it all! It's just like I've gone my entire life without paying much in the way of income tax because my employer paid most of my income tax bill for me (OK, they used money deducted from my paycheck to pay the income tax, but I personally never had to send much money to the IRS).
 
Next Step: abolish the IRA, sell tax debt to private collection agencies at a discount.
Worked great for all Princes during the Middle Ages.
 
We will begin charging those that make money off of us with Trade, and they will start paying, FINALLY, their fair share.
Is he pretending to be this dumb, or does it come naturally to him?
 
Looks like a cease-fire between Israel and HAMAS might be close to fruition. Hopefully it happens before Dump takes office so it becomes harder for him to take credit for it.

The Department of Government Efficiency will no doubt declare that it will be good to have multiple departments doing the same thing. The deep state one which can be in conflict with the unofficial one that just makes decrees through Twitter and demands that everyone listen to them.
He'll probably take a leaf out of Hitler's playbook and have his underlings fight each other.
 
Looks like a cease-fire between Israel and HAMAS might be close to fruition. Hopefully it happens before Dump takes office so it becomes harder for him to take credit for it.
He’ll claim that Biden stole the peace that was only made possible by himself (Trump).
 
Just like Musk, Trump doesn't mind saving America, the Middle East, the World, the Cosmos - as long as he gets to do it and no one else.
 
He’ll claim that Biden stole the peace that was only made possible by himself (Trump).


He doesn't have to, others are doing it for him.

Rep. Lauren Boebert
@RepBoebert

BREAKING: Hamas has approved a ceasefire- hostage agreement. President Trump's strong leadership is already making the world a safer place.
 
It's easy to delude yourself into thinking you're leading the parade when really you just jumped out in front of the other marchers.


Speaking of parades, apparently Trump's garbage truck is going to be in his inauguration parade. They should leave it at the Whitehouse for the convenience of whoever has to deal with Trump & Melania's home furnishing 'improvements' in four years.
 
Is he pretending to be this dumb, or does it come naturally to him?
WHo knows?
What he does not get is it is a two way street. and the other nations will strike back.
I think Tariffs are a bad idea, and never seem to do what they were intended to do.
And they are a bad idea no matter who wants them, be it Trump or Bernie Sanders. Sanders beleif in high tariffs is one reason I cold noever support him.
 
To nobody's surprise, Dump has already claimed credit for a deal that was achieved while he wasn't even president.
I'm sure his supporters will thanklessly lap it up, too, with a totally straight face as it will make total sense to them, bless their hearts.
 
In fairness, Biden did make a statement that trump and his team had been involved, but that was unavoidable. This way trump feels like he can take credit for it, and it might not end up all bad for the Palestinians.
 
WHo knows?
What he does not get is it is a two way street. and the other nations will strike back.
I think Tariffs are a bad idea, and never seem to do what they were intended to do.
And they are a bad idea no matter who wants them, be it Trump or Bernie Sanders. Sanders beleif in high tariffs is one reason I cold noever support him.
No, Sanders did not say that.

 
I should bloody hope so. You guys over in America seem to believe that they were some group of lovable rogues when they were actually a bunch of terrorists.
I once briefly worked for the IRA (not the IRA, but the IRA ;) ). I wouldn't call them a bunch of terrorists but they were pretty annoying.
 
Oddly enough Trump is taking fire from the right over the truce ..for helping to force Israel into a bad deal.
 
The deal is in phases, I'm certain that Trump will drop the ball during phase 1 and then blame Biden for making a terrible deal.
From what I have been reading, the biggest problem the Deal has is oppostion from within Israel many on the right not happy with it. COuld cost Bibi his job. If he loses the right it's game over.
 
He doesn't have to, others are doing it for him.
As a matter of fact, the negotiations for the ceasefire included negotiators from both the outgoing and incoming administrations. I don't know how that exactly worked, but it seems that the incoming administration does share the credit.
 
I think it is like a lot of historical events, people can sometimes get things done by appearing to do the opposite of what they would be expected to do. Nixon goes to China, De Gaulle accepts Algerian independence, Tony Blair agrees to go to war in Iraq. If their political opponents tried it they would be easily lambasted as just the types to cave in. So it appears here, especially as Trump has been publicly rebuking Netanyahu (when people in the Democratic Party do this, there is a frenzy of pearl-clutching about interference in that country's politics, siding with Hamas, likely anti-semitism etc... etc...)...

AFTER MORE than 15 months of war, and just five days before Donald Trump is inaugurated as America’s 47th president on January 20th, a ceasefire in Gaza has at last been agreed. The deal, struck on January 15th, is essentially the same proposal that the outgoing American president, Joe Biden, extracted from Israel in May. It took eight months of tortuous mediation and the joint efforts of both old and new American administrations, alongside those of Egypt and Qatar, to get Israel and Hamas, Gaza’s Islamists, to commit.
Mr Trump seems to have been the X factor. He made it clear to the Israelis he has no desire to enter the White House having to manage yet more war in the Middle East. That bellicosity seems to have helped secure a ceasefire in Lebanon, and now one in Gaza.

The new administration’s approach is yielding results in part because the Trump team has little truck with the diplomatic niceties of the outgoing bunch. When Mr Trump’s new envoy to the Middle East, Steve Witkoff, a New York real-estate mogul, arrived in Israel for talks on January 11th, he brusquely informed the Israelis he would not wait for the Sabbath to end to meet Mr Netanyahu.
But it is not just manners. Despite five decades of steadfast support for the Jewish state, Mr Biden is less popular in Israel than Mr Trump. Mr Netanyahu could at least tell his supporters that by refusing Mr Biden’s demands he was standing up for Israel’s interests. That argument is much less convincing when the Israeli right sees the incoming president as much friendlier than his predecessor.
 
Biden could have done this over a year ago.

I think the one thing that every future US President should learn is this: don't give a ◊◊◊◊ about how you are perceived by a Client State that causes you trouble.
 
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