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Trump's Second Term

For some reason in my mind I keep seeing Musk as Trump’s Albert Speer.
Not a good comparasion, gvien the history of Speer.
Of course, I think the two will part their ways before too long.
Trump;s has decided to continue his campaign against electric cars. SO if Musk was hoping to get concessions from Trump, he has failed.
Allhe has gotten is a unpaid job writing a report that will probably be ignored.
 
Given that Trump always had a massive turnover rate of people around him ... who will be the replacement, given that his current picks are already the worst of the worst?

Maybe Trump will end up running all the Agencies himself.
 
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy.
-Oscar Wilde

Musk will need another trillion for his Dodge department to figure out how to save money
 
Not a good comparasion, gvien the history of Speer.
Of course, I think the two will part their ways before too long.
Trump;s has decided to continue his campaign against electric cars. SO if Musk was hoping to get concessions from Trump, he has failed.
Allhe has gotten is a unpaid job writing a report that will probably be ignored.
He's exactly like Speer.

A mercenary opportunist.

In a couple of years time he will write a book 'Inside The Trump Administration'It will be a self serving whitewash that absolves himself of any responsibility.
 
For some reason in my mind I keep seeing Musk as Trump’s Albert Speer.
What, a kind of incompetent boob who managed to trick the world into thinking he was a competent apolitical tecnocrat who curbed the worst excesses as best he could?

Galaxy Brain is the former, but I don't think he could pull off the latter, except to his groupies.
 
Who's betting Trump tries to make Truth Social the official White House announcement platform?

That seems almost certain now that I think about it.
In fact, I'm sure I've seen screenshots from Trooth Social from Trump with White House "letterhead".

I don't think he's even waiting to make it official. Like everything, he just goes ahead and does it, and thinks the repercussions will never catch up with him.
 
Better watch out all you foreign hoax types, Elon says

Elon Musk

@elonmusk

There will be consequences for those who pushed foreign interference hoaxes.

The Hammer of Justice is coming.
 
Trolling, hoping to make waves on his failing platform
Yeah, remember when people said that about Dump in 2016? 'Oh, he's just trolling, he'll become more mature once he's in the Oval Office, he's got good people around him, give him a chance! What's the worst thing that could happen, that a million Americans die?'. Yeah, no. When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.
 
Anyone want to make a bingo card for all the ◊◊◊◊◊◊* crazy stuff that will be happening in the next few months around the next Presidency?
Considering all the crazy ◊◊◊◊ that's happened just in the last week, I think further predictions are impossible.
 
Also, who is Musk to be threatening with "the hammer of justice"? Does HE think his new internship is AG?
Musk apparently believes himself to be co-president.

I think the only thing that will stop that from being effectively true will be if Trump hears someone say that. That would motivate him to cast off Musk the way he usually discards his nearest and dearest.
 
Musk is given 18 months to complete his mission. After that he is pretty much irrelevant. They are too close to the 2026 election to cut SS by 30% then. Trump will focus on revenge instead. Arrest Hunter and Joe.
 
Musk is given 18 months to complete his mission. After that he is pretty much irrelevant. They are too close to the 2026 election to cut SS by 30% then. Trump will focus on revenge instead. Arrest Hunter and Joe.

Nah, he doesn't need revenge on Hunter and Joe, any more than he needed revenge against Hillary in 2017. Joe is a defeated rival, that's all. There are plenty of other people who Trump believes have wronged him or defied him.

I'm a little puzzled why Trump hasn't gone after Cohen more energetically, and I have to wonder if Cohen still has something on Trump. If, for example, Cohen had helped Trump pay for a few abortions, there wouldn't be a legal issue so the DOJ wouldn't have cared, but it would be politically damaging to Trump if it got out.

But I'm expecting Trump to go after Liz Cheney, John Kelly, that sort of thing.
 
General thread.

To kick off, a list of appointees to key positions, notable for their loyalty to Trump.



Thaks for starting this thread, Orphia Nay!

This will be my one and only post here, because I'm sick of being called a nazi, but regardless, I'm out there on the firing line in the msn and fox forums defending the dems by telling the maga weirdoes that the big problem with winning the trifecta means they can't blame the dems for all the horror that's gonna happened next.

Sure, they'll try and blame it on Harris or Biden anyway, but that's because they're hypocrites and will conveniently "forget" how they blamed Biden for all the problems after he took office. So in the real world, we can return the favor, and it'll be as true as the maga idiots told us that it was the President Elects' fault back in 2021.

I'm actually going out right now to buy me a very, very large container of popcorn (maybe two) to watch this freak show go down in flames. They'll probably laugh and pretend that's not true, but anyone with half a brain can see it coming, and it's quite obvious with the clowns that trump's nominating.

The inefficient Department of Efficiency and the "sleepy" Department of Warriors will be an ongoing sit-com that will entertain the world... bwahahahaha.



The only ones I feel sad for are all the folks who will be caught in the crossfire, through no fault of their own, unless of course, they actually voted for this freak show.


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This will be my one and only post here, because I'm sick of being called a nazi,
Feel free not to answer this question, because, as you said, your intent is to only post this one thing.

With that said, out of curiosity, who has been calling you a nazi and with what logic?

To be clear, there are numerous disturbing and highly relevant similarities between Trump and earlier Hitler, as well as the forces that support Trump and the forces that supported Hitler and the Nazis. The Republican Party also tends to be the preferred choice for Nazis in the US and the 14 Warning Signs of Fascism indict the Republican Party pretty badly. The Republican Party also threw their weight behind Trump and their support was virtually unaffected by Trump making a mockery of pretty much every good principle that the party had pretended to for so many years. The connection between the Republican Party and Nazis is notable, both past (there was literally a pro-Nazi Republican coup attempt in the past, after all) and present. Simply being a Republican is still very much not the same as being a Nazi, though, of course, and if one is correctly noting the similarities and connections in play, that is something that should not be used as or taken as if such meant that even Republican Trump voters are necessarily fascists, much less Republicans that oppose Trump.
 
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From my Australian friend:
"Third world countries often have very little in the way of regulatory authorities.
They often have a lot of building collapses, fires, health problems and disastrous environmental issues..."

That is where we are headed. Musk will be in his plane headed to DC to slash nuclear waste programs. Meanwhile Ramaswamy has scrapped the FAA. The plane can't land. Musk has to go back to Texas and land at a ranch where a billionire has a private strip.
 
Is there anything we can scrap, at least for four years, safely? To keep our libertarian friend above happy. Yes.

The Lewis book (link inmy signature) outlines a lot of necessary departements, which are there for our safety. Is there something we can slash safely for four years, at least? Yes, research. Medical research, drug research in colleges, many types of chemistry (think Lithium batteries) and countless practical fields are funded by the USA. Graduate student scholarships to do research. All that can be scrapped. Industry does not invent new chemical reactions, for example (many can't be patented, they are there for common good). All that will need to be scrapped for now. And in the long run we will not be the leader in innovation anymore. China will be. They will also do many types of public constuction. We can't build the Hoover Dams that the future technology will need.
 
I had this libertarian Finnish friend (age 70!) who actually refused to believe me when I told him the government funds the research done at Sranford, MIT and Harvard. The tuition pays for teaching. Research funding is the professor's job to get. The university might give you some recycled equipment.
 
Is there anything we can scrap, at least for four years, safely? To keep our libertarian friend above happy. Yes.

The Lewis book (link inmy signature) outlines a lot of necessary departements, which are there for our safety. Is there something we can slash safely for four years, at least? Yes, research. Medical research, drug research in colleges, many types of chemistry (think Lithium batteries) and countless practical fields are funded by the USA. Graduate student scholarships to do research. All that can be scrapped. Industry does not invent new chemical reactions, for example (many can't be patented, they are there for common good). All that will need to be scrapped for now. And in the long run we will not be the leader in innovation anymore. China will be. They will also do many types of public constuction. We can't build the Hoover Dams that the future technology will need.
As bad as cutting those things sounds, I fear it's going to be worse than that. Those things, while expensive, do eventually result in new technologies and advancements which further economic progress by boosting industrial output and creating new and desirable products. It's a lot of public money spent, but private enterprise eventually reaps the benefits and makes money off it.

It's the things that cost money but produce no economic advantage that are most at risk. Healthcare benefits for people who aren't working, for starters. Medicare is the largest expense in the federal budget. While it's certainly nice for those retirees to have covered or subsidized healthcare insurance, they're not producing a lot of economic advantage to shareholders by continuing to live and be healthy. They're not working so their income taxes aren't fattening the coffers. If they were to be reduced in number through dying off earlier that would save the government a lot of money it's currently spending, free up resources for the younger people who are paying more for them, and ease the housing market by increasing the supply of available housing. Ditto Social Security itself, and veteran's healthcare benefits. Slash all three and save not just billions, but hundreds of billions!

I don't see how soulless bastards like those who are about to be in charge of things could resist following through on that math. After all, the ultimate credo of the times is "I got mine, ◊◊◊◊ you" and they've got theirs. So ◊◊◊◊ us. Starting with the elderly because they're the most expensive and the most vulnerable.

And don't tell me "oh, the elderly vote a lot, so politicians won't touch them". They made their final necessary votes this time, the Boomers are dying out and losing influence each election. The bastards-in-charge have done the math, they know who's disposable now and they never choose kindess or loyalty over profit.
 
What do we have on the dictatorship side? Trump is in good enough shape to take revenge, but rather poor health to be a dictator even 4 years. So what now?
 
Trump will focus on revenge instead. Arrest Hunter and Joe.
If Biden actually thought that Trump would arrest him and his son, I think Biden might take certain precautions to prevent Trump's inauguration. He just needs to make it an official act. :)
 
If Biden actually thought that Trump would arrest him and his son, I think Biden might take certain precautions to prevent Trump's inauguration. He just needs to make it an official act. :)
I keep hoping Joe's got one more trick up his sleeve still, but I really think we're stuck with Trump taking office and then going all kinds of push-the-limits nuts on day one.
 
I keep hoping Joe's got one more trick up his sleeve still, but I really think we're stuck with Trump taking office and then going all kinds of push-the-limits nuts on day one.
I think our best hope may be cholesterol, fats and calcification in his arteries.
 
Thaks for starting this thread, Orphia Nay!

This will be my one and only post here, because I'm sick of being called a nazi, but regardless, I'm out there on the firing line in the msn and fox forums defending the dems by telling the maga weirdoes that the big problem with winning the trifecta means they can't blame the dems for all the horror that's gonna happened next.
Who has called you a nazi? If we had more Republicans like you, Trump wouldn't have won.
 
yeah, actually i kind of wonder if there's a whole lot of those reasonable republicans i keep hearing about on the msn and fox forums. when you tell them they can no longer delude themselves with everything bad is the dems fault, what are they calling you there? probably not nazi but something i bet.
 
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