Trump's promised ICE raids have begun

rdwight said:
Do you disagree with immigration laws? It would be useful to know what people's underlying reasoning is for this discussion. Blaming 'white supremacy' is just juvenile. 93% of illegal immigrants are from South/cental American countries.
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Are you counting Mexico? Because that's in North America. So fewer than 7 percent are from Mexico? That surprises me.

Are you counting Latino as white? I know a lot of them and they do not identify as white.

Is this accurate? Your claim is that the leap to white supremacy is juvenile because Latinos are white?

I am sorry if this has been asked and answered. I can't spend too much time here.
 
rdwight said:
I literally just said ending remain in Mexico policy.
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You're just naming a policy without connecting it to any supporting data. I'm not sure what you think that proves.

Here, let me give you an example of what it's supposed to look like:

Trump’s Immigration Policies Made America Less Safe. Here’s the Data.

rdwight said:
People given temporary parole through executive action are not what people imagine when they hear targetting legal immigrants. There is nothing illegal about recinding and shortening the timeframe. But as I said, they aren't illegal so you are right. His actions aren't only limited to illegal immigrants.
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Your lack of imagination isn't my problem. Words mean what they mean.

And no one suggested that rescinding temporary parole is illegal. Racist, stupid, and pointless, yes... but I'm not claiming it's illegal.

Now that you've acknowledged the obvious fact that Trump's immigration policies aren't really about curtailing illegal immigration, my hope is that you have the integrity to stop making that false claim.

rdwight said:
I keep asking for clarification on what people's positions actually are but the closest I got from Amy was that murderers should be deported. That's it. If you asked someone when people should be incarcerated and they gave that as the only example, would you want clarity on how extreme their position is?
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My position is that a presidential administration shouldn't pursue illegal and racist immigration policies. How about you?
 
rdwight said:
You've convinced me. ICE and this administration should break whatever laws it needs to in order to deport as many illiegal immigrants as possible. It would be difficult otherwise, and I know how you guys feel criminality is justified in the face of that...

Great way to get the law changed!


This is people conflating asylum seekers and illegal immigrants. There has been a huge influx in people claiming asylum, which some have pointed to as trying to game the system. Only about 30% are approved when it reaches the courts, although that doesn't necessarily mean all 70% are completely fraudulent.


You can keep calling everything you don't like nazism but it doesn't make it so.


I have no problems with warehouse raids. They do have to follow the law in regards to representation, conditions and the like. I dont care if that makes ICE's job more difficult.


I feel like it shouldn't need to be said, but enforcing immigration law is not a nazi action. It should be the normal state of being.
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You're still shilling for a nazi. In the end, sir, have you no sense of shame?
 
Darat said:
You mean like Biden did, surpassing Trump's previous presidency?
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Yes, but he did it without the fascist and racist rhetoric. The right really gets turned on by the rhetoric.

And the simultaneously forceful and impotent escalation that makes innocent people uncomfortable, but doesn't actually get better results.
 
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Olmstead said:
Yes, but he did it without the fascist and racist rhetoric. The right really gets turned on by the rhetoric.

And the simultaneously forceful and impotent escalation that makes innocent people uncomfortable, but doesn't actually get better results.
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And let’s not forget that they’re turning it into reality television. Nothing says “serious immigration policy” like embedding Dr. Phil with ICE.
 
Olmstead said:
Yes, but he did it without the fascist and racist rhetoric. The right really gets turned on by the rhetoric.

And the simultaneously forceful and impotent escalation that makes innocent people uncomfortable, but doesn't actually get better results.
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The Era of Small Penis Politics
 
johnny karate said:
And let’s not forget that they’re turning it into reality television. Nothing says “serious immigration policy” like embedding Dr. Phil with ICE.
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Hey, where's Steven Segal? Now there's the guy they need to get. Might even revive his career if Putin will rent him out.
 
Stout said:
Hey, where's Steven Segal? Now there's the guy they need to get. Might even revive his career if Putin will rent him out.
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I'm not sure he can get back into the US without getting dragged to court for outstanding debts.
 
rdwight said:
I said he wasn't deporting people with legal status. These people have temporary parole for 2 years, at which point they go back eitherway without a claim of asylum or other legal path to permanent status. If you want to do a victory lap, go ahead. When I talk about legal immigrants, i mean green card types. Not those on a temp stay due to executive order.
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Why should Asylum seekers be any different we are a country that proudly sent jews back to hitler in 1939 after all. No one cares what they will do to you in your country we just don't want them here. Why else do we do things like deport people who collaborated with our invasions back to their country to get killed?
 
So, how many corporate executives are being arrested? Because they are the ones enabling the undocumented workers to come here and "steal our jobs" and make us all as unsafe as a woman alone with Trump. That's what the law and order crowd want, right? Otherwise, its like arresting drug users and leaving the dealers alone.
 
Donal said:
So, how many corporate executives are being arrested? Because they are the ones enabling the undocumented workers to come here and "steal our jobs" and make us all as unsafe as a woman alone with Trump. That's what the law and order crowd want, right? Otherwise, its like arresting drug users and leaving the dealers alone.
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It would really be great if the feds, again, went after businesses that knowingly hire illegals.
 
They don't like people knowing their rights.

Trump’s Border Czar Whines That Many Immigrants Are Smarter Than ICE

In which Tom Homan admits that immigrants are smarter than him and his goons.

The city of Chicago may be too smart for Tom Homan.

Donald Trump’s border czar appeared on CNN Tuesday complaining that Chicagoans were too knowledgeable of their basic rights.

“Sanctuary citizens are making it very difficult to arrest the criminals. For instance, Chicago, very well-educated. They’ve been educated how to defy ICE, how to hide from ICE. I’ve seen many pamphlets from many NGOs: ‘Here’s how you escape ICE from arresting you’; ‘Here’s what you need to do.’ They call it ‘Know Your Rights.’ I call it ‘How to escape arrest.’”

Homan is referring to the city’s Know Your Rights campaign, launched by Mayor Brandon Johnson. The program seeks to “ensure residents of Chicago know their rights in the event of being stopped and detained by federal immigration agents.” The information is posted on video screens throughout the city’s public transit system.

The immigration czar is spearheading efforts to carry out Trump’s mass deportation plans, which have hit major cities like Chicago, Miami, Atlanta, and New York.
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Such a tragedy!
 
Donal said:
So, how many corporate executives are being arrested? Because they are the ones enabling the undocumented workers to come here and "steal our jobs" and make us all as unsafe as a woman alone with Trump. That's what the law and order crowd want, right? Otherwise, its like arresting drug users and leaving the dealers alone.
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Yep, haul them out of their offices in cuffs and post their mugshots on the front page. Get those "little guys" who are hiring illegals as well. Like that guy who had his tires slashed in Bakersfield (pre-Trump)

www.turnto23.com

BORDER PATROL: Gardener's tires were slashed to prevent high-speed pursuit

The El Centro Sector Border Patrol released a statement on why agents "disabled" gardener's tires during operation "Return to Sender."
www.turnto23.com www.turnto23.com
 
Regnad Kcin said:
Yes! It is about time we start doing things we’ve always done! Harrumph!
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Yup, and even the President of Mexico said that the numbers were no different than the ones during Biden.

And then, there's this:

Arrested under Biden, deported under Trump: Guatemalans sent back and welcomed with cookies
Story by David Culver, Evelio Contreras, Jerry Simonson and Rachel Clarke, CNN

Repatriation flights have been an ongoing process, Herrera told CNN, adding there had been no increase since Trump came to power. The only difference, she said, was the use of military planes such as the one arriving later on Monday...
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maga weirdoes are just plain clueless about reality and facts.


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Trausti said:
If it takes satiating your anti-White hate to support deportations of illegals, then I'll allow it.
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Are you saying it's not ok for the dems, but it's ok for my fellow republicans to be racist.

The maga weirdoes think that way too.

They bitch and moan about how bad the dems are, but never once see the huge splinter (trump) in their own eye.

Being a reasonable republican, they'd have more credibility with me if they'd at least acknowledge that our side can be just as bad... if not worse.

And I'm beginning to think "even worse" has been building up for a few years now, and it's almost ready to explode.


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Trausti said:
It would really be great if the feds, again, went after businesses that knowingly hire illegals.
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Yeah, they could go after Trump for his use of migrant labor on his properties.

Oh that's right, he's immune. Okay then, my old boss and maga weirdo; he made millions based on exploiting cheap, migrant labor.
 
AmyStrange said:
Are you saying it's not ok for the dems, but it's ok for my fellow republicans to be racist.
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I'm simply observing how there's only one group that it's okay to target and malign; poor Whites. Say whatever you want about them, there'll be no consequence.
 
Resume said:
Yeah, they could go after Trump for his use of migrant labor on his properties.

Oh that's right, he's immune. Okay then, my old boss and maga weirdo; he made millions based on exploiting cheap, migrant labor.
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And you're okay with that?
 
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