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Trump election conspiracy theories - the RETURN

At least there are some Republicans who recognize conspiracy BS when they see it...

... its just a pity they are only in Arizona

QAnon conspiracy theorist expelled from Arizona House over dangerous lies

https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/liz-harris-arizona-house-expelled-qanon-rcna79527

A bipartisan group of lawmakers voted to expel Liz Harris from the Arizona Legislature for inviting a conspiracy theorist to spread election lies at a hearing.

The vote to expel Harris was 46-13 (including 18 Republicans), which met the two-thirds threshold needed for expulsion.​

Just reading up on Liz Harris and... OMG, there is bat-**** crazy... and then there is Liz Harris.
 
Umm... I'm putting this link here. Not because it's a CT, but because it leaves fertile ground to spawn a variety of CT.

GA Delays Security Fixes to Touchscreen Vote Systems Until After 2024

We have, for years now, been covering the long-running federal lawsuit challenging the use of the state's expensive, unverifiable, and -- according to one of the nation's top experts -- wildly vulnerable and insecure touchscreen voting systems.

The touchscreen Ballot Marking Device (BMD) systems made by Dominion Voting, currently in use in Georgia, were selected for use in 2020 by Republican Sec. of State Brad Raffensperger. He did so against the strong recommendations of cybersecurity and voting system experts following a ruling by a federal judge, in 2019, barring the further use of the state's previous touchscreen voting systems made by Diebold. U.S. District Court Judge Amy Totenberg found the previous systems to be unverifiable, insecure and, thus, unconstitutional. Unfortunately, instead of moving to a hand-marked paper ballot system at the time, as strongly recommended by experts, Raffensperger chose new touchscreen systems that had many of the same problems as the old ones.

The plaintiffs in the original federal case, Curling v. Raffensperger, quickly moved to bar the Dominion systems from being forced on every voter at every polling place in the state, as Raffensperger demanded. That suit continues. As part of it, Dr. Alex Halderman of the University of Michigan, an expert for the plaintiffs, was allowed to examine the Dominion touchscreen systems and found vulnerabilities so serious that Judge Totenberg sealed his complete findings, even from the plaintiffs! The U.S. Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), however, was allowed to review Halderman's sealed report and made a list of critical software and physical security recommendations for the continued use of those systems in the battleground state.

Now, according to the transcript [PDF] from a hearing in Judge Totenberg's court last week in the Curling case, an attorney for the Sec. of State's office explained that while Dominion has completed CISA's recommended upgrades to the software and has had them cerrified for use by the U.S. Elections Assistance Commission (EAC) in late March, the state will not be installing those software upgrades until after the 2024 Presidential election.
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Seriously, one might easily think that the Republican government that seems all too vested in using insecure and unverifiable voting methods might have... ulterior motives for the oh so coincidental delay in making things less insecure.

I'm probably pushing Fair Use here, either way. Later in the link, there's also some more details about the Coffee County break-in and stuff surrounding that that also a more than a bit of WTF?
 
And... more warning sighs of crap to come -

How the far right tore apart one of the best tools to fight voter fraud

Also,

2 more Republican states abruptly depart from interstate voter list program

The once-boring voter system has become the source of tension, and more states have signaled they may depart before 2024.

MAGA pretenses of caring about voter fraud continue to be little more than gaslighting, by the look of it. Not all Republicans are on board with this now, but... meh. Trump is apparently one of those who have pushed for Republican states to leave.
 
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When they cry about Voter Fraud, it's because they are doing it themselves - every accusation is a confession
 
Here's more of a followup thing.

Cyber Ninjas forced to turn over 39,000 emails; as suspected, the 'audit' was a sham from the start

Stuff like...

Logan’s texts offer the first direct evidence that the Senate’s hand-picked auditor could not aggregate the results of his own “audit.” And they appear to bolster critics who long have maintained Logan "made up" numbers and lacked the ability or methodology to make any credible findings.
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In short, though, it sure looks like just about all, and perhaps actually all, the criticisms that were seriously leveled at that Fraudit were very well warranted. Shocking, I know. It's almost like people who aren't being willfully blind can see the really, really obvious.
 
the cyber ninja audit was a resounding success in that it provided the right-wing media echosphere with feel-good news for months.

Was there anything else it was supposed to accomplish ?
 
The Great Zaganza said:
the cyber ninja audit was a resounding success in that it provided the right-wing media echosphere with feel-good news for months.

Was there anything else it was supposed to accomplish ?
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I think they were supposed to fabricate some evidence too.
 
Another follow-up.

Judge tells Cyber Ninjas they can't hide messages forever; former official calls for criminal probe

Before handing over the thousands of emails, texts, and voicemails, Logan reviewed and edited them, removing entire conversations (I envision Nixon hunkered down with his tapes, redacting whole days). According to tech experts who’ve examined the Cyber Ninjas’ releases, “Of 2,823 redacted messages, 2,159 involve people in the "Stop the Steal" movement.” That’s like Nixon erasing the Ehrlichman-Haldeman conversation immediately after the Watergate burglary (which he did). Back to 2023, that’s more than two thousand contacts with Q jerks, militia goobers, gun huggers, right-wing funders, insurrectionists, and their partners in elected office—Gosar and Biggs perhaps? Just askin’ (hope others are too).

It gets worse: In addition to deleting important sections in the transcripts, Logan is still holding on to thousands of other texts and emails that he claims are privileged.
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In particular, a lot from the ending phase of that corrupt political stunt show. Logan's demands to keep that stuff secret have been denied again, either way. Communications with the Arizona Senate Republicans have apparently been ruled to be allowed to be kept secret by the state Supreme Court under the premise of "legislative privilege," on the other hand, though the court does supposedly want some details about the contents of such.

And yeah... I find myself mildly surprised that criminal charges haven't already been filed for such flagrant violations, but Republicans do seem like they have real difficulty holding looney far right politically motivated stooges accountable without massive public pressure. The former official mentioned in the headline, incidentally, is former Maricopa County Attorney Rick Romley, a Republican.
 
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The Great Zaganza said:
the cyber ninja audit was a resounding success in that it provided the right-wing media echosphere with feel-good news for months.

Was there anything else it was supposed to accomplish ?
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Of course it was!

1. They actually did find voter fraud... 198 instances of it in six counties, with 177 of those instances in Pima county. From those 177, ten people were charged... trouble is nine of them were Republicans

2. They actually did show that the final vote tallies were wrong... trouble is, the new tallies showed that Biden won by 360 more votes than Maricopa County had awarded him in the official count.

Oops! "Shot themselves in the foot" doesn't do this fraudit caper justice!
 
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mikegriffith1 said:
Just last week, newly released records in Arizona show that Maricopa County counted 19,000 invalid ballots. Given that Biden only "won" Arizona by 11,000 votes, that act of election fraud alone may have changed the outcome and wrongly awarded the state to Biden.

https://justthenews.com/politics-pol...d-ballots-2020
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Yup, and when those 19,000 invalid ballots were removed from the count, Biden's winning margin increased from 11,779 votes to 12,139, so obviously, more of the invalid ballot were cast for The Fat Orange Turd than for Joe Biden.

ETA: And just to make something clear, the counting of invalid ballots does not necessarily mean fraud was the reason. These could simply be mistakes - a mixture of human and machine error. "Bbbbbut how could 19,000 invalid ballots be counted by accident" I hear you screeching. Well, that's easy. 19,000 ballots out of a total of 1,562,758 ballots cast in Maricopa County, represents 1.2% of them. That means the machines and humans got it right 98.8% of the time. Once you get past the machine count error, the human validation of ballots is very much subjective, down to personal judgement over signatures and handwriting.

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In case you're wondering, Just the News is a news organization recently started by veteran journalist John Solomon, formerly at The Hill.

Here's my website on election fraud in the 2020 election:
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Thanks but we already know that "justthenews.com" is a political disinformation website, started by an ultra conservative political hack and lying sack of ****.
 
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In case you're wondering, Just the News is a news organization recently started by veteran journalist John Solomon, formerly at The Hill.

Here's my website on election fraud in the 2020 election:
<disinformation website URL snipped>
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Thanks but we already know that "justthenews.com" is a political disinformation website, started by an ultra conservative political hack and lying sack of ****.
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Does this guy believe any any/all CTs?
JAQ
 
Yeah, and his username used to be BobTaftfan, which always bugged me, because I'm distantly related to the Tafts, and I'm quite certain they don't agree with any of his CT dreck. :rolleyes:
 
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